If you are in the middle of a wood or ruin, say 4cm in, can you fire out, and is it at -1?

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Here's my understanding: Yes, you can. And no, it isn't.  

You can shoot through up to 10cm of terrain without penalty. If the target is in terrain, and you are shooting through less than 10cm of that terrain, the -1 penalty applies.

If your target is on the far side of terrain that is less than 10cm wide, its viability as a target depends on whether or not the terrain piece was designated as blocking LOS.

So -1 firing in, but not out?

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Correct.

Of course, if the firer and the target are both in cover, the -1 applies, but this is because the target is in cover--the firer's position in cover or out is irrelevant.

Hope that makes sense.  

You guys need to be paying more attention... and read all posts!  

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/forums/ ... =4;t=15875

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And, no, the attacker does not suffer the -1 to hit when firing *out* of cover.  The "to hit" modifier is based on the position of the target in relation to terrain.

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All these years doing it intermittently wrong (you were right Gavin!).

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Unless I missed something, that post with the rules extract states the same thing I had said, yes? Or is there something I'm missing?

Yeah, but that thread was *over* before this thread was started...  

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Fair call. Apologies.