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Post subject: Siegfried on SG  Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:43 pm |
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don't like it
seems too "fragile"
something meatier (read vehicles carried on the inside) would be better!
ah well in the minority again
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:20 pm |
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..I do like it.. but I imagine this as being a step between the Thunderhawk and a larger dropship- that, like Jimbo says, carries vehicles on the inside- I just read Grey Hunter, and their surface-to-ship transports seemed more like a proper dropship to me...
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:32 pm |
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Hi!
Seems Jimbo and I are sharing a "vulcan mind meld" since I echo his thoughts in this regards. I would have prefered a "bay" area where its cargo would go. Hanging rhinos on the outside like that begs to be shot out of the sky...
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:25 am |
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Again, the model is nice but somewhat impractical. G/W does it again !  In any event I'll buy one or two, and maybe even do a little conversion work ! 
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:37 am |
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Looks like a crossbreed between a Thunderhawk and a Klingon D-7.
As other people have pointed out, they'd only have had to fatten the hull to keep the Rhinos inside instead of outside. The engine section is nice, however, so I think conversion is the thing to do here. ?
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:43 am |
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If you look here (Bottom Right) there is a picture for the SM lander concept, much more practical, and fully enclosed.
What do you recon they do this one in about 1 years time as the Mk2? 
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:45 am |
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| Quote (Chris @ 13 2003 Oct.,20:37) | | There is bound to be a pic in the Epic:A rulebook, and some examples on the Fanatic site. |
I wouldnt bet on that, but I am sure that there will be more updates on it nearer release.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:38 am |
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Its okay, though nothing special.
I would prefer to see a lander, which hits the deck - It's cargo doors drop down - and out rumble the tanks. Rather than this. I suppose its just my image of how a transporter should work. Like the planes that carry the modern day tanks.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:43 pm |
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At least it doesn't need to stop to release the tanks, skim the ground at a low speed and drop 'em. Then whizz off and get out of there.
Depends on the level of tech though, would need anti-grav or some kind of VTOL capactity to do that.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:47 pm |
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Yeah, I dont really see that being possible. I cant imagine the rhino's and cargo/passengers being able to take such an impact. I think the craft will actually be required to land.
Now Elda on the other hand!!!! Can you imagine an orbital lander sweeping down, and releasing a load of falcons!!! They then sweep off on an attack run.
Shame they use the boring warp gates instead.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:53 pm |
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The "fragile" look came up on the playtest forums also.
When I saw it, I automatically assumed that the lander had an ablative shell that was mostly burned off in re-entry and the remains ejected in low atmostphere.
That way, you could use a nice, effeicient wedge shape for re-entry and by the time you hit the ground, you can dump and go with the rhinos.
The closest thing to fluff supporting that idea is the bit about drop pods having an ablative outer shell. Outside of that, it just popped in wholesale.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:31 pm |
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Obviously it looks like it needs a lot of work, but G/W is goofy enough to leave it "as is". Internal loading is much more logical. ? I've loaded C-130s, C-141s, and C-5As and slung loaded UH1Hs, UH-60s and CH-47s. ?So I guess I have a working knowlegde of Air Transportability. ?The model is "neat", but goofy. ?I'll buy 1 or 2 in any event ...
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:37 pm |
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Heh. I posted a similar comment above, and Jervis indicated he now intends to add it to the background explanation.
I am absurdly pleased by that, but at the same time feel bad for being so pleased.
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:06 pm |
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| Quote (Legion 4 @ 14 2003 Oct.,17:31) | | I've loaded C-130s, C-141s, and C-5As... |
Drool...I love those kinda aircraft, and like you say, having the payload inside is usually the best idea. Have you never loaded C-17's? I love those, the power the 4 engines give off is immense, and even better, the RAF now has 4! Yay!
Also, I wonder how the IG lander will vary compared to the SM one?
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Post subject: Siegfried on SG Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:20 pm |
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..Hehe, on the date of my first History GCSE exam we had the whole "fly past" for the Queen's birthday or something flying over the school low-level every 10 minutes or so, practicing -it included a C-17- the noise was incredible!
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