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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs  Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:11 am |
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G/W and F/W don't appear to know what's going on many times...
On any given day it's anyone's guess. J.J., Tony, Andy, Gav...
Or the guy who runs the Fish & Chips place up the road from the G/W UK building? 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:18 am |
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I don't know how, as I believe I read anything on the official board (maybe it was on the old one?), but I missed those "officials" details on this. Thank, TAS!
Ah, something else: I don't know who edited my post (Maksim or Shadow Hunter I assume), but thanks anyway for making it clearer and corecting my awful expression and typos!
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:10 pm |
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Hi!
That would be pretty cool is they could release a a main epic game and more detail subsystems that meld into the main game. Difficult to pull off, but a very worthy effort.
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:40 pm |
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Hi!
I was following that thread and here is the "in between the lines translation" of it:
Fanatic games don't sell well enough to justify sending stuff there. No game that doesn't sell on par with the core games such as 40k or warhammer will EVER get the support or resource allocation they do.
Never mind that there is a implicit vicous cycle in this line of thought:
no resource allocation--no product availability--no sales--no money made--which justifies not allocating resources in the first place.
Unfortunately while Jervis points out a very real issue about supply cost versus amount ot be sold, I think one should point out that even in places where this is an issue like GWUS, there WILL be store managers who will not order any Epic stating space constraints of other such things.
So while there may be some cost issues, there are also store "attitude" problems I think GW should look into.
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:58 pm |
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Athmos,
Ah, something else: I don't know who edited my post (Maksim or Shadow Hunter I assume), but thanks anyway for making it clearer and corecting my awful expression and typos! |
You're welcome.
Check out the petition here. We could really use your help.
Petition for Moderator Reform at E-A Forums
Shalom,
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Next time I write in French you can help me out! 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:26 pm |
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That all sounds great, three Epic scale games! ?
But before we start buying rounds of drinks to celebrate... let's wait and see how E-A does. I wouldn't be surprised to see the release date of both the rules and models pushed back, based on recent information.
Just a little "reality" to to keep everything in perspective... 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:40 pm |
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Mm.. interesting stuff.. a few years before we see these plans coming into fruition however as has been said.... if ever.. 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:14 am |
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Hi!
Mm.. interesting stuff.. a few years before we see these plans coming into fruition however as has been said.... if ever..
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Well, enthusiasm is all well and good, but if we all go to that quiet place in each of us and really be honest, we all know that Stormseer's statement above IS what will transpire.
All I'm curious about is how much WILL come out before the bottom falls out.
If anyone doubts it I'll take bets and odds. 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:45 am |
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Which opens up a much larger issue:-
Why does epic, or most other spin offs, never seem to break the mold and become on the same "level" as WHFB or W40k?
Lack of backing or something else?
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:08 am |
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Hi!
I can't speak of most "fanatic" games, but in the case of epic it is most definitely a lack of "backing". We must remember that once upon a time epic WAS a core game. Albeit a "junior" to 40k and warhammer, but a core game with full support in WD and game releases on a routine basis.
Epic can and once did sell and had reached a good degree of popularity, it all came crashing down after the release of epic40k, which GW did not really support only in the lamest of terms. The once core game whithered on the vine because of this.
It takes money to make money. It's a maxim most people in business understand, but GW is not willing to commit the resources that epic needs to be a success.
Epic is just a "fringe" game because GW, not the fans have made it so.
Unfortunately, yet again, we see the tell tail signs of lack of genuine support and "backing".
It should be no surprise when this new edition also meets the same fate.
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:49 am |
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I have a half written background for a campaign hidden deep in my hard drive- if you like we could resurrect it and use it as background for this campaign if it gets up. Should save you some work at least...
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:49 pm |
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I recently sent an email to Jervis asking werther it was possible to see some of the old Epic articles up on the Fanatic website.
We do plan to put some of the older articles up on the website over time.
The problem is getting the opportunity to scan the articles in and turn them
into PDFs. Now, if kind members of the Epic community were to do this for
us, then we'd happily put the material up on the Epic website for others to
download.
Best regards,
Jervis Johnson
Head Fanatic
Hi Jervis.
Time and time again the discussions have come up on the Epic forums about the "good old days" when Epic recieved coverage in WD comparable with Warhammer and 40k. Seems that a great deal of people really loved those articles.
I was just wondering if it is possible to somehow re-publish some of the old Epic material like Battle reports, Painting guides and Background on the website? Even if it is for outdated game systems no longer supported by GW the pics and background info are as relevant as ever. Also the more narrative style of the old battlereports mean that they can still be read with great ennjoyment even if you don't know the rules themselves. -I for one miss the old 5000+ points games of AT and SM: that was what really got me into Epic;-)
The relatively limited coverrage of Epic in WD and with Fanatic Mag still not available I think this would be a relatively simple and inexpensive way to further promote the game.
I know this is also a question of available bandwith for the website but if GW gave the permission I'm sure that many of the older players out there would be more than happy to provide both scans (or even better: reworked PDFs) and bandwith to host such materia on their sites. The interest is definitely there.
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Christian Salling
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As I am currently studying Graphic design and much of my day is spent doing PDFs I wouldn't mind redoing some of the old article into download-friendly PDFs but I was wondering if some of you guys would help by providing scans of the original articles?
The scans need to be of such quality that the text can be read and the images need to be at a quality of at least 72 dpi (normal screen resolution.) It doesn't matter if the original is worn, has coffee spills, teethmarks from when the dog was trying to eat it etc. I'll be fixing up the images and rewrite the text anyway. Of course the higher quality the better.
I accept all formats but .jpg and .tiff are preferred.
To organize this we need to know who's got which articles and some means of getting them scanned. I was thinking about creating a yahoo briefcase and posting the password here so people can just dump the scans there (I only have a Hotmail adress so I cannot accept images via PM unfortunately  )
What do you guys think?
Cheers! 
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:28 pm |
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Hi!
I've already done this (as some may know) and have the entire epic library in PDF format. This includes:
First edition
Space Marine rulebook
Codex Titanicus
Adeptus Titanicus
Compendium of WD articles
Second Edition
Space Marine rulebook
Armies of the Imperium
Warlords
Renegades
Hive War
Titan Legions (both books)
Space Marine Battles
WD article compendium (those articles not already repeated in the above books).
The files are large, scanned in full color at high resolution. The full set is over 2 GIGS.
So you might ask Jervis IF he wants it and I can sent it to him for alteration into smaller bits.
If the file sizes are too big, it could be redone given time, but I need to know his parameters for size and resolution.
Primarch
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:05 pm |
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I should have known Primarch 
I think the main thing of interest would be the old WD articles.
Werther your stuff can be used directly would probably depend on the resolution of the scans. Anything above the 72 dpi screen size and they probably begin to get rather big if they are scans. I assume that the files will be just single articles available for download one at a time. Something in the region of 0.5-2 mb max for most articles sounds about right when you consider that the core rules part of the rulebook (26 pages) is around 4 mb. I just sent Jervis an Email asking about the whole file size issue.
As for the reworking process: I don't mind spending time on some of it if it means that some of the hard to come by material becomes publically available again.
Cheers!
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Post subject: Old Epic Material PDFs Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:46 pm |
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Hi!
My scans are 300dpi.....
I like a lot of resolution.
If he wants them lowewr let me know. Its best to ask Jervis wht he wants or needs.
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