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Gargants and Stompas
Red Pendrigh
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:41 pm 
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I see, the stompas are more of an all round unit then.
At present I am working towards this horde:

Ripskar's Warhorde:

Ripskar's Raiderz; [840]
4 Nobz, 16 Boyz, 8 Grotz, 4 Gunwagonz, 2 Battlefortresses

Gutsnik's Kommandos; [500]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 12 Kommandos

Stormboyz; [250]
10 Stormboyz

Stormboyz; [250]
10 Stormboyz

Gorwazza's Bikerz; [350]
12 Warbikes, 4 Skorchas

Ghazdreg's Blitzerz; [520]
8 Gunwagonz, 2 Gunfortresses

Coggy Da Bastid's Stompas; [475]
3 Stompas, 1 Supa-stompa

Dregmag's Kannonz [475]
15 Big Gunz, 3 Oddboyz

Wizzdakka's Fightaz; [200]
4 Fighta-bommas

Urgwaaa's Fightaz; [200]
4 Fighta-bommas

Landa; [200]

Landa; [200]

Gargant; [650]

Gargant; [650]

Total: [5760]

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:20 am 
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Both formations have their uses. Don't underestimate how useful the extra damage capacity is on a gargant.

Extra damage capacity gives more than just making it hard to kill:
Increases number of CC attacks
Increases number of FF attacks
Increases the amount of blast markers it can absorb before becoming supressed\broken
Increases how many models it can engage in CC
Increases how many models it can barge aside in CC

Combined with the boost the toughness the extra DC and power fields give, gargants can absorb heaps of damage, meaning it won't go down unless your opponenet makes a concentrated effort to take it out.

Also remember that since supa stompas are warengines, they can be picked out from a stompa mob. And if the supa stompa is killed in one turn, that would inflict enough blast markers to break the remaining stompa formation.

Then again, a stompa mobz plus supa stompa is 475 points and gargants are 650, and the stompa mob has more firepower. Depends how much points you have spare and how you're going to use the formation.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:02 pm 
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Certainly, the aspect I missed were differences in FF/CC dice rolls. 2 Gargants are definately appearing in the Horde.

Revision of Armylist, according to available minis.

Ripskar's Raiderz; [840]
4 Nobz, 16 Boyz, 8 Grotz, 4 Gunwagonz, 2 Battlefortresses

Gutsnik's Kommandos; [500]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 12 Kommandos

'Uge Warband; [575]
6 Nobz, 21 Boyz, 9 Grotz

Warband; [250]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kanz

Warband; [250]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kanz

Warband; [250]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kanz

Stormboyz; [300]
12 Stormboyz

Gorwazza's Bikerz; [350]
12 Warbikes, 4 Skorchas

Ghazdreg's Blitzerz; [520]
8 Gunwagonz, 2 Gunfortresses

Coggy Da Bastid's Stompas; [475]
3 Stompas, 1 Supa-stompa

Dregmag's Kannonz [475]
15 Big Gunz, 3 Oddboyz

Wizzdakka's Fightaz; [200]
4 Fighta-bommas

Urgwaaa's Fightaz; [200]
4 Fighta-bommas

Fightaz; [200]
4 Fighta-bommas

Landa; [200]

Landa; [200]

Landa; [200]

Gargant; [650]

Gargant; [650]

Total: [7285]

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:01 pm 
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My Valkyries from Forgeworld arrived today.

They are really, really nice.  There are seven parts to a model; the main hull, the rear twin-tail, a pair of landing struts/supports to go under both wings, a pair of fuel tanks to go under both wings, and landing gear that attaches to the rear strut under the fueslage.

They are big as expected.  They are much larger than the SG Valkyrie, whic is dwarfed by the FW version (even more so than FW Baneblade vs SG Baneblade).

They are very well detailed like the 40k model.  The sensor probe thingy is there on the nose, must be careful not to snap it off.

A very nice model.  Very well detailed with minimal imperfections to clean up.  I still like the SG version as it is really nice, but the FW Valkyrie is nicer.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:17 pm 
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Please Please pics of side by side comparison....if possible

:p

Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:35 pm 
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Quote (Cuban Commissar @ 23 2004 June,20:17)
Please Please pics of side by side comparison....if possible

:p

Thanks for the info.

I'd love to, but I don't have a digital camera.  Sorry!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:18 am 
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Hi!

Well, all I can say as soon as mine get it you'll have your side by side comparison...

until then... wait! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:46 am 
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You asked a fellow Latino to be patient, you should know better... :p

Well if you send both sets to me I can take the pictures and then send you back the minis...you trust me right... }:)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:18 am 
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Still waiting on mine ... :{  Too bad S/G and F/W can't get the sizes right.  But as before, I'll work with it !  :;):   If I ever get them ?  ???  :(  < whine mode >

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:21 am 
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Quote (Cuban Commissar @ 23 2004 June,20:46)
Well if you send both sets to me I can take the pictures and then send you back the minis...you trust me right... }:)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Good try, I like a person who is willing to take a chance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:09 pm 
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Hi!

Thats a good line "send me your minis for pictures and I'll send them back"...

.... I suppose santa stil visits anyone who beleives that line.... :;):

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:50 pm 
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Tuffskull sent my VOID miniatures back :p, and Santa still comes for me, although the bugger never got my change of address letters :(, still hangs up my stocking at mums.

Must have been a disgruntled elf or something....

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Still waiting ... :(  No Valkyries ... :(

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Hi!

I'll give it a week more before I contact them.....

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Disgruntled eldar sounds like a start to me. However I've just seen the England-Portugal match so I will be biase to most things.:D :angry: :laugh:

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