Haven't we had this discussion before? Getting a feeling of Dejavu.

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Indeed, although now GW are no longer supporting epic, it wouldn't be competing with a GW product line, however unsupported.... I understand that FFG are permitted to produce 'tokens' or 'playing pieces' using GW imagery, I wouldn't be surprised if given the scale of the models, they try to pass them off as 'tokens'.... after all there is a wee warlord titan 'token' in the Horus Heresy board game..... I'm 99.9% sure this is just wishful thinking, but FFG certainly turned the roleplay franchises around and made them profitable, they could probably do the same with epic if granted some wiggle room!

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It won't happen (I think). 10mm? I've got 12k of IG, 7k of SM, 7k of Eldar, 7k of Orks and 3k of not-Tau that will laugh in the face of 10mm. In fact if the rumour is true about the backdrop being Armageddon they'll be hard pressed to sell me any of it including 6mm unless the models are absolutely stunning.

I don't want FFG to run Epic. Have you read some of their rule books? It's hit or miss more than once. Love their games, but much of it is full of holes on release. I'm not talking balance here. I'm talking pure: how does this ability affect this other special rule?

This.

+1 for me.

Otherwise Epic will continue to die a slow death, restricted to just the fervent old timers who still believe that it is a great ruleset. But new pkayers are more likely to try Dystopian Wars or Dropzone Commander.

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well if anything new players are the best outcome if its true. I mean, ive played gw games for 20 years and only recently got into Epic ( blasphemy I know!) but having something officially supported again is never a bad thing. Always nice to be able to buy exactly what you want, unless of course they dont make it....

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Firstly, I think that you mean 'couldnt care less'. I apologise, but while I am happy to let a lot of things go, this one in particular bugs the hell out of me. And, I am not alone....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

For your second point, I entirely agree.





This is as I understand it too. Basically, FFG produce roleplay and board games, but cant touch miniature games. The lines are fine and move around a bit, but I think it would be difficult to argue that Epic was a board game.



At least twice! We even had a rumour a while ago about 40K being re-done in 15mm. But, this is what the internet was invented for.... well, this and porn, and we wont have that here! (Waits to see if netepic storms off in a huff at this revelation! )

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I apologise profusely. Clearly I have assimilated more American culture than I would desire. Yanks... they're worse than the Borg (in a less grafting technology to your body-type way, but mark my words, that's coming)! At least I haven't yet adopted their annoying way of inexplicably starting every sentence with "So".

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Hate to go off on a tangent here, but living in Singapore, and working in an institution that was totally set up by a rather well known American institution, and this puzzled the hell out of me for ages. You can see people having entire conversations of only 'so, so, so....'.

It also means that I have to Americanise whatever I write to fit in with group projects, and that means taking out most of the 'u's and replacing a load of 's's with 'z's. It pains me!

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ugh, yes, I share your pain. Colour is not a spelling mistake.

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You're extremely quick to jump to conclusions based on my opinion of an unsubstantiated rumour.

Turning to your first point, it could well turn out to be true, but what I've seen does not convince me. The evidence is tenuous at best, and what little of it there is points towards the boxed set, which is why I wrote the comments which I did.

As to whether it would be a good idea for GW to take over the game again, there would be good points and bad points. One great thing would be that we'd all have the same set of rules to play to, and could, hopefully, do away with all the arguments about which set of rules is being used by which players. It would be simply a case of saying these are the official rules, these are the ones which are used, and that's that.

Of course, that's idealism at its finest, but it's possible. At least it would make things straightforward for new players.

The downside would be that Epic would potentially slip back into GW's cycle of four year rules revisions, and any models produced for it would be expensive. They'd probably charge for the rules too, rather than make them a free download.

Anyway, this is all far away in some distant future which may never even come to pass.

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Now we can all start speculating about what it means that he didn't even say something like "I can neither confirm nor deny..."

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In theory that would be lovely, it would be great if the community unified behind the one system. But all I could see happening is that we'd have four rulesets to argue over rather than three! I think we're all too entrenched in our own ways - myself especially!

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That's assuming that:
It's not a limited release,
The rules are any good,
A useful number of army lists are actually included.

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Hey, let's not paint all Americans with broad brush strokes! People who say, "could care less" bug the hell out of me, too. And don't even get me started about people who say, " I should have went".

Back on topic, I agree that having a new edition probably would make it easier to attract new players.

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The rest of the rumors:

A New Direction for Specialist Games


And from today
Epic May Include Primarchs, Chaos Traitor Legions, and Ork Clans


And here are my two cents.
if this happens, it think the boxed game approach is the most propable.
A boxed set like Space HUlk is a good push for sales, because you can offer it at a good deal. You have everything you need to play. Make Amryboxes as expansions if it really takes off.
Target audience would be all the new kids that never even heared about Epic and all the old kids that stopped playing epic but will buy it for nostalgia.
GW needs sales and fast. After the 20something% loss in sales they need a push before the end of thier fiscal year. Or something on the horinzon for the shareholders like the new 40k starter.
Boxed sets are cheaper than an Army realease and have higher customer potiential espacially if it is something "new" with nostalgia attached on.

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