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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:27 pm 
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A good Russian PoV book is
Tank Rider: Into the Reich with the Red Army

Otherwise there is a website with a lot of old guys reminessecencies about the war, heres an extract from a tank rider.

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It is said that the tank paratrooper fighting even more dangerous than ordinary infantry.

And rightly say. Who are tankodesantniki, you know? We planted five or six people on the tank and forward ... If starting strong resistance - dismount ... If the tank is quickly coming - run for him ... And in every battle of the five, two must die: And that's at best! .. We all understood this very well, and would never dream to survive the war, in one word - suicide ... No hope ...

But the tanks, we only went into battle, and on the march, as a normal infantry - on foot or in carts, sometimes on machines, but never on the tanks.

Then what do you have to explain that, I fought almost a year and half were still alive? What this more: good luck, luck, experience, what?

I can not say that this is some incredible luck, still in the full sense I do not have survived, was left crippled for life: I do not know, honestly say, just do not know ... You know, I then had the desire to go to serve his brother. We are a mom with him gone anyway, I knew he was the commander of the artillery somewhere on our 1 st Ukrainian Front, and then if the relatives were close, they were going to meet them, and helped to connect. I knew perfectly well what parts is what my chances are to survive, so I've had this idea - go to serve him, but until then the specifics have not got it.


And some random discussion on TMP and yes I now realise we are somewhat off topic!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:03 am 
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Quote: (GlynG @ Dec. 08 2009, 14:46 )

I hope they will accept Krieg and not be too insistent on currently on sale models, this seems to be pandering too much to a hypothetical risk of new player being turned off by not being able to buy a model new (while under-appreciating the cares of the very many existing players who already have them and/or the cross-over W40k players who could be put off if one of the units they commonly use in their W40k army are missing here).

There are a dozen old model epic Gorgons on ebay at the moment, they're not rare at all and with ebay being a much cheaper option for acquiring most epic models than GW themselves I don't think it should be discounted.

I've heard Matt Otter state if FW don't bring Crisis Suits back and no good proxies can be then they might just leave them out when they do their Epic-UK Tau list, a suggestion that struck me as bonkers and wrong on many levels  :rock:

I picked up 12 gorgons in an quick amount of time off of ebay, last year. Anything can be found if someone actually wants to make that force.

Frankly I dont know why anyone would want to purchase new epic product from GW anyways. Their prices have gone stupid for epic. (last I checked that is.)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:05 am 
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Quote: (BlackLegion @ Dec. 09 2009, 16:09 )

According to the guys on a german history forum Tankriding was re a legit tatcic by the Red Army and the Wehrmacht
Troopers rode on tanks into battle armed with SMGs (a side effect was that they also protected the tank against enemy anti-tank infantry). They drove right into enemy positions only until then they sat downand and attacked.
Such attacks where usually done at night because at day the casualties where very high because the tank with the infantry was a fire magnet.

The germans called them "begleit" troopers. They would ride on the back of the STUG SP guns during an assault with STG 44's and SMG's.
The soviets used this tactic more thhan the wehrmacht, but in the end, the tactic is the same.

Typically, staying anywhere near a tank was something you didn't want to do though. Those beasts drew alot of fire from all sources and you didn't want to be hanging around the hunk of metal when the shells started dropping.

Anyone who dismisses these acts needs to brush up on their WW2 and read into it a little more.
They happened. They went into combat that way. It was effective, but with hig casualty rates.





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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:59 pm 
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They happened. They went into combat that way. It was effective, but with hig casualty rates.

Agreed, so +1 to hit 'tank riding' infantry seems sensible to me. :)


Anyways, I wonder why someone from EpicUK doesn't ask one of the ERC which NetEA lists would be suitable for them... if anyone has a good idea about which lists are in a playable state it's the ERC.

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To date the only list I've heard the netERC officially sanction for tournaments is the dark eldar list. I may have missed any announcements though.


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*pokes ERC to release their army book, which should include the full list of what they sanction as tournament-ready (or nearly so, at any rate, as I understand it EpicUK will want a 6 month testing period anyway)*




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