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A Sad Moment in Epic History!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:13 pm 
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Shagrat:  In addition to the above, Maksim Smelchak has a sizable ork force, including more stompas than you can shake a stick at, with some... imaginative... conversions.

I have ~5000 in bad moons (basic ork army list), ~4000 in evil sunz (speed freeks army list), plus gargants.  I also have ~3000 in snakebites (feral ork list).

In short, you're in good company. :D

Ask any strategic of tactical questions you like.  I'm sure you'll get a plethora of opinions.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:08 pm 
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Well my first post and look at all those lovely replies

Thanks one and all .. looks like I came to the right place.   :L

Now wheres my rule book and calculator ...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:24 pm 
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Quote (Falesh @ 03 2004 Feb.,10:50)
Markconz, I wish I could paint that fast, it's taking me ages to do my Infantry. Still, only 4 stands left to do, I must get started on them again.

4 stands - thats nothing!!  Mind you your paint jobs are very good from the posts I've seen (who paints red eyes on 6mm orks?!?!) :)  

My technique for painting orks fast:
1: Glue in bases...
2: Spray black
3. Big brush, drybrush line of 5 models with mix of shadow grey and black (to give bit more definition to bits which will be left black).
4. Paint shoulder pads a colour (like red)
5. Paint trousers a colour (like brown)
6. Paint flesh (goblin green)
7. Paint guns and backplate (boltgun metal)
8. Paint base brown and flock...

Speaking of step 8 I should be doin that instead of being on here...  :D

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:31 pm 
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Shagrat,

Shagrat: ?In addition to the above, Maksim Smelchak has a sizable ork force, including more stompas than you can shake a stick at, with some... imaginative... conversions.


I also have large E-A Ork force. I originally wanted enough Stompas and Boyz warbands to field more than 3,000 points of models. I have just kept adding to them (mechanizing them with B-Fs, adding Gun Mobz, more Supa Stompas, custom building Ork Bommas, etc.) and now the group is very large.

I had high hopes the E-A would really make the Orks competitive and a little different than they were before. The differences didn't come, but I think they are adequately competitive although I really miss the early playtest versions when the Orks could field some decent tank armies. They're back to mostly rabble now.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:11 pm 
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WAAAGH RIPSKAR!
I've been a Gothic player mainly since 1999 but Da Ladz aren't afraid of getting their boots dirty.
I've just got the rulebook and I'm preparing my Ork horde for landings...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:18 pm 
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Does no-one else do the basing first then? I find I tend to accidentally run the drybrush over the legs everynow and then so basing first makes things a lot easier.

I'm with da boyz too, since E40k, might as well run through my painting technique (for da standard boyz):

-clip, clean and glue.
-glue sand onto base
-spray black
-Do the bases: paint bestial brown liberally - chestnut ink - drybrush snakebite
-paint the clothing and shoulder pads scab red
-paint the skin goblin green (a sort of careful heavy drybrush so eyes and lip recesses aren't filled)
-paint the guns scab red
-paint the gun holding hand goblin green
-paint the bayonet boltgun metal
-highlight the clothes, guns and shoulder pads with blood red
-highlight the trousers codex grey (looks a little messy actually but is absolutely fine from above)
-paint the sides of the base bestial brown
-bleach bone round the big gun, then skull white (I find white doesn't paint well straight onto black)
-patch some watered down glue onto the base in 'grass-growthy-looking-patterns' and dunk in some GW flock (it's better than the local railway shop's stuff, imo... if about thrice as expensive :) )

I think that's about it.. I'm quite pleased with how it's turned out  especially as I can get through a whole formation in a couple of hours. Think I'll have a full painted army in no time at all :)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:07 am 
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Well been playing/collecting Epic since SM1, so most (like 80%) of my 9 Epic armies (including 30 Ork Warbands) are based on the square bases.

And those are harder to paint than the long E-40K bases...

I learned the hard way... :{ Doh! :o

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:31 pm 
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Not much to say really... This was posted on the SG forum in response to a thread about re-opening the US archives. Read it and weep :(

Hi,

A petition to open the archive is not going to work. Most of the old Epic molds have failed due to age and wear and have been destroyed so we no longer have Epic molds in the USA.

Sean Forbes
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Games Workshop USA



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:32 pm 
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weep, weep, weep
where are we going to get all the necessary bits now?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:48 pm 
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Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 11 2004 June,08:31)
A petition to open the archive is not going to work. Most of the old Epic molds have failed due to age and wear and have been destroyed so we no longer have Epic molds in the USA.

Sean Forbes
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:{

Guess I will have to keep my money and buy some other manufacturers stuff.  :laugh:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:15 pm 
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Hmm...this all but assures that I will never buy from them again. The only thing GWUS had going for them was the archive. I can get things quicker and cheaper from GWUK....

...alas I knew yea well GWUS...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:15 pm 
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This guy Sean Forbes posted a second reply to the thread:


Guys,

All of the Epic 40,000 bitz are no longer available. As far as the other lines Warmaster and BFG, we simply don't have enough demand for bitz for these systems to keep selling them. Also, the rumor that we will begin selling Epic bitz is false, there are no plans to do so at this time.

Sean Forbes
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I know I'm being overly optimistic but "at the time" does leave a tiny glimpse of hope for at least the E40k models to become available again at some point.  Sad news nevertheless.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:53 pm 
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Hi!

To be frank I always felt GW's claims of "broken" or "wasted" molds pretty hoaky. I mean if they no longer wish to sell something because it competes negatively with a newer more profitable line, then thats what they should do.

But giving simplistic excuses isn't my cup of tea. I find it rather insulting. I'm a big boy and know how the real world works. I'd respect them more if they were more sincere

To each their own I guess. This seems to be another "end of an era". Another thing that is no more that we will fondly recollect from here on in.

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Why were they able to sell Epic minis from the archive up til a few months ago then??!

...Did all the moulds suddenly become 'worn out' when the archive closed?! ..wtf? :(

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