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E:A  Rise of the Dracon
Ilushia
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I would. If I can remember the details of what happened! Orangesm has pictures of some of the second game seeing the Marines take on an Imperator Titan. I felt kinda sorry for the marines... he let himself get knotted up into a really big group near the middle of the field, and the Imperator clipping-assaulted them by declaring an assault on the center formation and counting everything else as intertwined. Killed his three land-speeders and broke litterally his entire functional army (he has something like 3 units of guys with just 1 stand left).
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Pics are in the descision sectino. And I like Ilushia for some reason can not remember the details to well (forgot to take pictures the first part).

But back to what this thread is really about. I think that an important thing to do is make it as 'professional' looking as possible and tested as soon as possible.

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As much as I hate to lay work at someone elses feet, I know I'm not up to the task of assigning points and developing an army structure. ?Especially to make it appear
"professional". ?Ilushia may already be working on this.

I believe, even once that is done, there needs to be some level of discussion to smooth out rough edges before testing begins.

Now writing the background shouldn't be a problem for me. ?I think I can give it a professional well thought out look. ?However, between copying posts to a word doc (not as fast as I thought) and working on this history, I may not have anything to present for several days. ?

I'll try to produce some name suggestions too, but this seems like a good job for Vermis as he has the zoology degree and the 2 Lizardman army books.




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Vermis - the "Lizardman" !  He seems to be the expert !  :D  Very good credentials !

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Eh?  Wot?

Ah yes, two lizardmen books. :cool:  Yup.  I don't like to boast, but...  Hey.  Did you know I have three skaven books too?  I know, I know; I just keep getting better. :p

Ahem.  Anyways.  I don't think it'll be a huge task, even if you want to replace all the FB names (which I don't think is the case, last time I looked).  I think there are just a few things like heavy infantry and aircraft?  Oh, and skimmers.
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(Vermis @ Jul. 31 2006,12:42)
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Hey. ?Did you know I have three skaven books too? ?I know, I know; I just keep getting better. :p

Does this mean we can start on them next! :D


even if you want to replace all the FB names (which I don't think is the case, last time I looked). ?I think there are just a few things like heavy infantry and aircraft? ?Oh, and skimmers.


That is correct. ?I don't know how others feel, but I think many of the infantry names should be kept. ?Skinks, Saurus, ?Slann Mage Priest. ?Mostly equipment needs to be changed, but would prob. be cool if they were derived from the original FB name.

Just as an example (and not a very good one mind you), the fliers would be something like Terradax and Terrados. ?I in no way intend for these AWFUL suggestions to be used, they are just to convey the concept I had in mind.

In a rather strange universal twist, the Lizardmen army book I've been waiting for finally arrived today. ?Same day as my Necron codex (hopefully actual 40k OO references) and my Rogue Trader book(so I can look at all that Slann fluff first hand).

This should give me alot of background to work from for the history of our army. ?

Funny, I hated all that research in college, now I'm doing it for fun. :p




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Ugh. Busy  day today... I'll get on the army list ASAP. Probably won't have it finished until sometime tomorrow though (Sorry guys!) today has been a real wash for me.
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(consectari @ Jul. 31 2006,18:38)
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In a rather strange universal twist, the Lizardmen army book I've been waiting for finally arrived today. ?Same day as my Necron codex (hopefully actual 40k OO references) and my Rogue Trader book(so I can look at all that Slann fluff first hand).

This should give me alot of background to work from for the history of our army.

Ugh. Busy  day today... I'll get on the army list ASAP. Probably won't have it finished until sometime tomorrow though (Sorry guys!) today has been a real wash for me.


So... should I wait a while?  :D

Aircraft: how do you feel about quetzl and coatl?

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Vermis:  So... should I wait a while?

Wait on the Skaven army?  Yeah, at least until we crank this one out.  :;):

Seriously, there's no reason to wait.  I'm just compiling background.  Nothing much to do with names.

Vermis:  Aircraft: how do you feel about quetzl and coatl?

Works for me.  What does everyone else think?


Ilushia: Ugh. Busy  day today... I'll get on the army list ASAP. Probably won't have it finished until sometime tomorrow though (Sorry guys!) today has been a real wash for me.
Nothing to be sorry about.  Don't think I'm trying to rush you if I ask how things are going.  Everyone has other things that must be attended to as well.  I myself expect to be a few days min. pulling together the background info.  

It's just when the thread gets quiet, I like to make sure everyone is still out there.

One thing I would like for you to keep in mind is, the biggest complaints I've seen of most fan based lists is that everything is underpriced and too complicated.  

We have plenty of "flavor" in this army, so try to keep it simple, but still in line with our ideas.  Most of all, we know points aren't going to be perfect out of the gate, so go a bit high instead of low.

If you need input on any snags you run across, just let us know.  

I'm currently trying to reconcile the 40K Slann with the WFB Liz.  The Slann seem in many ways to be like the Skinks, so I'm not sure how to integrate them without being redundant.  Oh well, If nothing comes to mind, I'll put the fluff up here and ask for ideas.

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I just love watching this come together. I think you guys are doing a great job!  :D

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(dafrca @ Aug. 01 2006,01:17)
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I just love watching this come together. I think you guys are doing a great job! ?:D

dafrca

Your kind words are certainly appreciated.  Thank you.

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Vermis: Did you know I have three skaven books too?


consectari: Does this mean we can start on them next! :D

Way off topic, but...

I know I said this jokingly, but it just so happens, my Feral Orks have a number of hunched figs with those funny little hats you often see on Skaven.  They would make great intergalactive scavengers and junkmen.  

Prob. fit better in 40k than epic though.  Easier to convert too.  

Sometimes I wish I liked playing with infantry. 40k has some seriously cool potential.

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If DRM does Space Rodents(Skaven)/Rats in Space !  There is another project for ya' !!  :;):

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If DRM does Space Rodents(Skaven)/Rats in Space ! ?There is another project for ya' !! ?:;):

I'm ready, but I don't know about my co-conspirators! ?:p ?:D

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I thought you were trying to push "Space Apes" through DRM first!  :laugh:




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It's not pretty... But I have here a tenative first draft of the army list complete with unit-sizes and point-values I think are fair... Some of it is likely off, and I'm sure that the Old-One vehicles are going to need review in another version or two (They seem really powerful to me, and cost a boatload... So we'll see what happens). Anyway. I present to you V1.0 of the Epic Lizardman list:
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