Guys sorry for the delayed response, I didn't realise Fattdex had dropped the list up here for comment.
Ack a number of the points:
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First thought: why the Minotaur and Falchion? Neither of these are identifiably Mechanicus, and just seem to be filling a gap in the list. Could the Ordinatus Minoris be adapted from the 40k list instead with the option to fill the artillery role or WM hunter depending on fit out?
I would agree to some extent but they are both options in the Taghmata army list in book 3 so they're in there for now until something else comes along. Given they make 95% of the imperium's weapons, I'm inclinded to open up the complete range of SHTs to the taghmata at some point.
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First look on the knights section and i think the knights are way too nerfed with their first strike attacks missing.
Also why only allow 1 single warhound in a Mechanicus list? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Knights will take some testing, this was a move away from the traditional epic knights that Dave was working on and trying to closely match current 30k/40k trends without being stupid. You will find in some cases the FF/CC is improved or points reduced to account for the loss of first strike on some units. You'll also note the shield is more consistent so you won't die in droves every time you receive an assault.
0-1 singleton warhound is a typo - consider it fixed.
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Why are Warhound formations considered core? In the 40k list the Scout Titan formations are limited to two per each battle titan. Using this list, there's nothing stopping me spamming Warhounds. A large number of cheap WE, that are highly customisable? That screams 'broken' to me already.
The AMTL list works really well, I feel that it should be used as the basis for the Heresy AMTL, with maybe some slight changes to support formations to reflect the strength of the Taghmata.
Totally fair point, remember this is a first draft. I'll attempt to reflect the AMTL guidance in 0.2. As you'll probably notice the 30k AMTL borrows very heavily from the Epic AMTL as the titans are essentially unchanged after 10k years (at this point).
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Quick question about the Mechanicum lists...
'(A Taghmata army may contain any number of Taghmata formations and 1/3 of its total points from any other mechanicus army type or support units)'
I take it this is similar to the standard Titan or Navy allies? So a Taghmata army can take a unit of Knight Paladin, but they don't count as a Taghmata core?
Yes that is how to read it. There are 3 factions essentially, you choose one as your main force then can spend up to 33% in total from the other factions or support elements.
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Also, I feel the lists would be easier to read if each different army was listed on its own page. It took me a little while to work out how the knight list interacted with the Taghmata. But then I am a little special...
Ok, will look to improve formatting to make this easier to understand.
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Curious are the lists in this supplement on par with NetEA lists in terms of balance/strength or are they only suited to facing off against other lists in this supplement?
They should be reasonably fair. Points are generally calculated by using comparisons against long standing epic units and formations. Play testing though has been more frequent against other 30k lists than standard epic armies.
We played a few games against orks and eldar, 30k marines won more often. I would attribute some of this to teething problems with balance and part to do with how different the 30k marine force can play and so the ork/eldar tactics against codex space marines may not have been as effective. Similarly though Ive seen guard tear apart 30k marines because the marines tried to outshoot IG with a few new toys, rather than look to assault and cross fire as is their strengths.
Keep the feedback coming guys. I'll hope to have a fix to this and update to the Legion list out shortly.
