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The Horus Heresy: Death of Isstvan III (supplement)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:03 am 
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fattdex wrote:
Hi mate, i don't fully understand your question, can you expand on what you mean?


Hi, sorry. I meant in terms of building an army and models to pick up. I imagine it'll be pretty easy to figure out once I get through the rules and the supplement. Should I start with a base 3k points or can I start with 1k and work my way up? Should I focus on building on tactical marine units or also pick up a bunch of different vehicles?


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Hi mate, you are best off picking a legion that interests you fromm a fluff point of view and building a themed army aaround that. Heresy games are the most epic when played as a scenario recreating historical events. The list restrictions for each legion help to shape the structure / order of battle for each legion the rest is up to your taste. Solar Auxilia are in now too, knights are being worked on and you can use any other imperial guard list or titan legion versus astartes legions.

By the nature of how expensive core formations plus transports get, it is pretty easy to get large point games. The recommended points level for playing the standard tournament scenario is 4k points, but you can play any level you want. Some groups find it cool to do a 'slow grow' league building and pai ting armies up in chunks of 1500 or 2000 points and having game days along the way. That is a good way to get into it.

Generally unless you are iron hands, legions start out with a strong tactical detachment and branch out. If you are playing smaller points you can leave them in free rhinos, as points get larger you can add support marines, land raiders, spartans etc.


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fattdex wrote:
Hi mate, you are best off picking a legion that interests you fromm a fluff point of view and building a themed army aaround that. Heresy games are the most epic when played as a scenario recreating historical events. The list restrictions for each legion help to shape the structure / order of battle for each legion the rest is up to your taste. Solar Auxilia are in now too, knights are being worked on and you can use any other imperial guard list or titan legion versus astartes legions.

By the nature of how expensive core formations plus transports get, it is pretty easy to get large point games. The recommended points level for playing the standard tournament scenario is 4k points, but you can play any level you want. Some groups find it cool to do a 'slow grow' league building and pai ting armies up in chunks of 1500 or 2000 points and having game days along the way. That is a good way to get into it.

Generally unless you are iron hands, legions start out with a strong tactical detachment and branch out. If you are playing smaller points you can leave them in free rhinos, as points get larger you can add support marines, land raiders, spartans etc.



Awesome, thanks for the advice.


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I find the Iron Hands rather attractive simply because it's normally a bit unusual to have a HORDE of space marine tanks. =-P

I'm wondering what the best proxy for the infantry would be - they have this distinct kind of... diesel punk armour.

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@ Ontelam: you can't go far wrong with two tactical detachments (+ optional support stands) and a terminator detachment as your compulsory legion detachments. For support, I would go for an artillery battery, a tank detachment (land raiders, sicarans or predators), assault troops in a Thunderhawk and some fast troops (bikes, speeders) for taking objectives. Maybe add some warhounds or a Fellblade for heavy firepower (and visual appeal ;D ). This should give you a solid army core, to be expanded with whatever takes your fancy. Trust me, it is great fun to try out the huge number of units the legion list offers!


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Stormwind wrote:
I'm wondering what the best proxy for the infantry would be - they have this distinct kind of... diesel punk armour.


Have you seen the TMG Novan Elites?


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Sorry Alf, I should have made expressed myself more clearly. The Novan Elites are excellent for sapce marines, but I meant infantry for the Solar Auxilia, not the Iron Hands!

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I've seriously considered the Khurisan (sp?) nova republic 6mm infantry for solar aux stand-ins. They are absolutely NOT steampunk, which the FW solar aux have some similarities in their design. However there's a chunkiness and box shape to the line that application of brass and bronze paints would would pull it off nicely I think. A "trick" for your eyes that will make them right in your brain. Something to consider....

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The recommended points level for playing the standard tournament scenario is 4k points, but you can play any level you want.


For what it's worth, I think that might be country-dependant, the UK tournaments are mostly 3k.

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Whiskeyjack wrote:
@ Ontelam: you can't go far wrong with two tactical detachments (+ optional support stands) and a terminator detachment as your compulsory legion detachments. For support, I would go for an artillery battery, a tank detachment (land raiders, sicarans or predators), assault troops in a Thunderhawk and some fast troops (bikes, speeders) for taking objectives. Maybe add some warhounds or a Fellblade for heavy firepower (and visual appeal ;D ). This should give you a solid army core, to be expanded with whatever takes your fancy. Trust me, it is great fun to try out the huge number of units the legion list offers!


Thanks! I just priced out my army and most of what you listed is on my list :)


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fattdex wrote:
The recommended points level for playing the standard tournament scenario is 4k points, but you can play any level you want.


For what it's worth, I think that might be country-dependant, the UK tournaments are mostly 3k.


Pretty sure he is referring to games using the heresy lists...

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I've played a few games of 3 - 4k using these heresy rules ,but thinking about bumping it up to 5 - 6k as there are so many lovely 'Lords of war' options I want to include in games .
The ruleset is definitely a lot of fun to play , I cant recommend it enough :)


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I've played a few games of 3 - 4k using these heresy rules ,but thinking about bumping it up to 5 - 6k as there are so many lovely 'Lords of war' options I want to include in games .


+1! ;D


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IJW Wartrader wrote:
fattdex wrote:
The recommended points level for playing the standard tournament scenario is 4k points, but you can play any level you want.


For what it's worth, I think that might be country-dependant, the UK tournaments are mostly 3k.

Yeah i mean specifically for heresy games.


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Whoops, my mistake.

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