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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:15 pm 
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*breathes sigh of relief*

I wasn't totally against the reworked  E40K Eldar titans, but owning 6 of the older Phantoms/Warlocks, I'd welcome the chance to re-equip them. If I'm going to follow the E:A ltournament lists, that means a damn sight more Powerfists than they're currently packing.

As for the Revenants, just give me the original Titan Legions era ones. Neat.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:45 pm 
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Hi mate, I'm sure you'll enjoy the forums- we have a great community of mature and cool people here.....


If you are planning to rip of all your non-power fist arms on your titans just to line them up w/ the Epic:A lists, then, personally I wouldn't bother-
If you have one or two to use in 'tournament' games, then that will probably do, and you can gradually divine what the other ones will cost in points, and could use them in fun battles.... :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:03 pm 
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Hi!

Okay Maksim, I'll behave... :{

Back to Eldar titans. I thought the old models really captured how elegant, agile and "alien" the Eldar motiff is. The wings, though delicate housed the holofields and the descriptions of how the image defracted as it ran are very cool.

The newer ones looked very odd, bulky, not agile or "beautiful", nor elegant. I think the original image really captured what it was for a model to look "Eldarish".

Funny how a model sculpt can capture that essence.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:19 am 
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Primarch,

Back to Eldar titans. I thought the old models really captured how elegant, agile and "alien" the Eldar motiff is. The wings, though delicate housed the holofields and the descriptions of how the image defracted as it ran are very cool.


I also really like the combinations of a slim willowy frame, lots of jewels, curved non-panelled edges, and an odd Celtic styling to it. The wings are a wonderful touch. I'm very fond of Signius's conversion with wing arms.

The newer ones looked very odd, bulky, not agile or "beautiful", nor elegant. I think the original image really captured what it was for a model to look "Eldarish".


I agree. Well put.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:22 am 
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I think eldar architecture should be in the same vein and that "beauty" and "art" superceeds form or even function. I would not envision no straight lines or angles, but smooth curves and a lot of bends. Sorta like the roofs of the kremlin with some Japanese architecture mixed in. Also I think natural vegetation would be part of the architecture.

I think in case of eldar architecture, as well as any other, is best left "ill-defined" so as to let players create their own vision on how it would look like.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:05 am 
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I like all versions of the Eldar Titans, and with the different Craft Worlds there might be different versions of the Titans, too (?). ?

Plus I stick by my technology evolution theory... :D ?

However, the SM1/2 Eldar Titans do look very "alien"... :o

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I bought the "new" Phantom  :{

I sold it on ebay and have not looked back  :laugh:

The old Phantom is so much more in the style I would expect of the eldar as they have been built up to be over the years.

Just my two cents...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:39 am 
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It would be interested to know, sales wise, which was the worse seller, the new Eldar Phantom or the Ork Mega-Gargant. I'm willing to bet it was the new Eldar Phantom. You can't give those away....

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I'll bet that you're right.

At least with the Mega-Gargant you could use it as bit fodder! ?:D

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What great news! ?

I hate the newer Eldar Titans, including the Revenant. I hate that too. I actually don't mind the old Revenant, but giving it a more jump pack look (like it is almost a flier) would be really good, rather than just long legs.


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Hi!

I always thought the Revenant needed very large jump jets in the rear of the model or on its' legs. It doesn't look capable of jumping all that far with the way it's modeled.

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Yeah, another thing I dislike about the old model is the head - it looks rather strange and doesn't fit with the Phantom or Warlock -

Hmmm, this makes me wonder - Was it designed by Jes Goodwin, as the Phantom was? ???

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A mix between the Revenant and the Slanneshi Daemon engines would be somewhere about right I think, but with visible jump jets.


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Primarch and Stormseer,

It would be interested to know, sales wise, which was the worse seller, the new Eldar Phantom or the Ork Mega-Gargant. I'm willing to bet it was the new Eldar Phantom. You cant give those away....
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If you want to give yours away, I'm READY! ?:D

Yeah, another thing I dislike about the old model is the head - it looks rather strange and doesn't fit with the Phantom or Warlock -
Hmmm, this makes me wonder - Was it designed by Jes Goodwin, as the Phantom was?


I think Jes Goodwin did design the Eldar Revenant scout titan. The original title of the sketch before it was later turned into a physical model was Eldar Scout Ttian. I remmber the drwing very well. It does have large jump jets in the back. Possibly it has them on the bottom of its' feet as well.

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Legion-4,

I like all versions of the Eldar Titans, and with the different Craft Worlds there might be different versions of the Titans, too (?).  
Plus I stick by my technology evolution theory...


You've stated once or twice that one of your Craft Worlds has SJG OGREs.

Where do they fit on your Eldar technology evolution theory?

They don't seem very "Eldar-ish."

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