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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:07 am 
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From EOT Codex:Known Traitor Legio Titanicus

Death's Heads
DEATH STALKERS
Fire Masters
IRON SKULLS
Legio Vulcanum I & II

Since Iron Skulls _IS_ the nickname for Legio Metallica I'm frankly puzzled. ???

One traitor legion mentioned in the Horus Heresy rulebook fluff is Warped Dogs. "Defence lasers blasted many renegade ships from the sky, sending thousands of tons of fused metal death raining down onto the ground below. [...] The vessel of the Warped Dogs was vapourised and that Titan Legion's name passed into history."

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:58 pm 
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All the legions I've found so far:

Cockatrices
Deathbolts
Firebrands
Imperial Eagles
Imperial Fists
Imperial Hunters
Legio Astorum
Legio Canis
Legio Crucius
Legio Destructor (Steel Beasts)
Legio Honorum
Legio Ignatium (Fire Wasps)
Legio Invigilata
Legio Magna
Legio Metalica (Iron Skulls)
Legio Ordo Sinister
Legio Praetor
Legio Tempestor
Legio Thanataris
Legio Ultima
Legio Victorum
Morning Stars
Nova Guard
War Griffons (Legio Gryphonicus?)
Warp Runners

Colors for about half.  Emblems, forge worlds and Princeps Enioris for about 1/3.


_Traitor Legions_
Death Stalkers
Festering Death
Fire Masters
Flaming Skulls
Iron skulls
Legio Mortis (Deaths Heads)
Legio Vulcanum I
Legio Vulcanum II
Legio Vulturm
Storm Lords
Suns of Damnation
Tiger Eyes
Warped Dogs

Colors for about half.  Emblems for 1/3.  A couple princeps (no senioris).  One forgeworld (Vulcanum I and II).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:41 pm 
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..Hmm, in my new Imperial Armour book, in the ForgeWorlds list, the Iron Skulls are said to be a loyal _Imperial_ legion, home FW Metalica.. etc etc..  :L

-Also, the SM2 box-set painted 'Eavy Metal example titan was an Iron Skull wa it not?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:51 pm 
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Yep.  Some of the traitor legions changed their names, though.  It's possible that a legion adopted the Iron Skulls name after converting to chaos.

I think the Imperial Armor is the only source I don't have covered at this point.  Can someone give me the rundown it has in there, please?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:13 am 
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Quote (nealhunt @ 15 2003 Sep.,20:51)
Yep. ?Some of the traitor legions changed their names, though. ?It's possible that a legion adopted the Iron Skulls name after converting to chaos.

I think the Imperial Armor is the only source I don't have covered at this point. ?Can someone give me the rundown it has in there, please?

As I promised. However, it's not much. Just a list of Forge Worlds with the name of Titan Legion plus what segmentum they're located in. :(

Like I said earlier, Flaming Skulls and Storm Lords are not listed as taraitors any more. Maybe new legions have been founded and given the old name?  ???

Legion Name: Legio Destructor (Beasts of Steel)
Forge World: Accatran, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Tempestor (Storm Lords)
Forge World: Estaban III, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Magna (Flaming Skulls)
Forge World: Estaban VII, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Astramana (Morning Stars)
Forge World: Graia, Segmentum Tempestus

Legion Name: Legio Gryphonicus (Howling Griffons)
Forge World: Gryphonne IV, Segmentum Tempestus

Legion Name: Legio Astorum (Warp Runners)
Forge World: Lucius, Segmentum Obscuras

Legion Name: Legio Ignatum (Fire Wasps)
Forge World: Mars, Segmentum Solar. Also home to two other legions, which are classified.

Legion Name: Legio Metalica (Iron Skulls)
Forge World: Metalica, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Crucius (Warmongers)
Forge World: Ryza, Segmentum Solar

Legion Name: Legio Honorum (Deathbolts)
Forge World:Stygies VII, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Pallidus Mor (Pale Riders)
Forge World: Tolkhan, Segmentum Tempestus

Legion Name: Legio Victorum (Foe Slayers)
Forge World: Triplex Phall, Ultima Segmentum

Legion Name: Legio Invigilata (Emperor's Guard)
Forge World: Voss Prime, Segmentum Solar

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Wasn't Legio Metallica the legion that fought Orks too often and was primarily armed with CC and short ranged weapons charging in blaring heavy metal?

If so - they really need to be more inventive with the names...

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From IA "Iron Warriors":  Legio supporting IW seiges are often fitted with Corvus assualt pods and utilised as seige towers in support of the assault and breaching units

From "Storm of Iron": Legio Ignatum's FW is Mars

Are you including the names of know Titans and what Legio they belong to as well?  I'll skim out the Titans names from the novel if you are.

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Mojarn: ?Many thanks. ?I'm going to include the following note about duplicate names after the Traitor Legion table:

"...Possible explanations for this include: ?legions which split during the Heresy, the new Orders are very tradition oriented and revived the names so as to be the "true" legion, several traitor legions are known to have changed their names and may have duplicated loyalist names"

Tas: ?Unless they are particularly noteworthy (like the Legio Crucius Imperator destroyed fighting chaos) I'm not adding individual titan names right now. ?That might be a good project for the future.

I think that's going to be the end of what I find for now. ?I'll update my info and talk to Cybershadow about a good place to post it. ?I'll probably post it to the Epic yahoo groups, too.

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It's on Yahoo epic and epicA.

I tried to past the link, but every time I did, some sort of auto-formatting messed up the link.  Here's the link to the files page on epic.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/epic/files/

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:33 pm 
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Thanks Neal and others for the effort.

I am just about to check it out :;):


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Nice job, cheers Neal...   :D

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:49 pm 
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Hey:

For those not on the playtest boards, I've been appointed the army champion for Thousand Sons.

So, I'm out collecting ideas.  Any input is welcome.  My general concept is outlined here:

http://www.specialist-games.com/epic/fo ... IC_ID=5495

On a related note, I'm looking for the Citadel Journal article detailing the Suns of Damnation titan legion, who are Tzeentch worshippers.  If anyone has a scan of it, a spare copy, or some other way of getting me the info, I would be very appreciative.

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Sounds very promising Neal! :)
I would love to see the return of the Warp Palace. I'm sure SG or even Forge World could churn out a really cool model -much better than my humble attempt. New Silver Towers would be nice too though I wouldn't hold my breath for them.

As for ideas: The Tzeentch Daemon engines could perhaps include some sort of giant flying disc tank? I guess the Silver tower pretty much fits that role allready but it would stilll look cool. :;):

Are Daemons limited to what's on the E40k plastic spure? Or could the list include Horrors and Screamers etc.? It could be fun to have variant Screamer like beasts. Perhaps some with close combat style mutations or others with firethrowers or fireball artillery... Just a few loose ideas....

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The daemons are pretty much sprue-only, but stats for horrors and screamers (as well as alternatives for the other powers) were playtested and will be included in the "collectors' models" unofficial stats.

If worse comes to worse, I'll knock up stats for the Warp Palace just for the collectors models.

I would also love to see a new silver tower sculpt.  I even put that on my wish list when PG was polling what models were absolutely vital for the new chaos lists.  I think a silver tower would look awesome on the back of an oversized screamer, held on by some sort of chain saddle.  Or, alternately, being pulled by giant screamer(s).

For WP models, I would love to hear some suggestions.  If I could put together a conversion idea that would be relatively easy and not too expensive, I think it would help it gain acceptance.  I was thinking that the WHFB Tzeentch chamion disc would be larg enough to make a good starting point, but there don't seem to be any easy building-like pieces that would just plug into that.  Too bad the Man-o-war stuff is OOP.  The Bane Tower sucked, imho, but there were a lot of cool bitz.  If you have any ideas, let me know.

I think the silver tower/warp palace pretty much covers the floating disc tank concept, but I get where you are coming from.  A more tank-like sculpt would be cool - more like a floating weapons platform than the current semi-fantasy tower.

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Hey Neal, are the Firelord and the - ah- um other flier still in, or are they relegated to the L&D list?
The disc supporting a Warp Palace - or even a Silver Tower - sounds great!
I'm trying to think up a conversion, but easy it isn't. The base could be a WHFB screamer; the tower-part is a tougher proposition. The easy way out would be to use a ThousandSons WH40K OR a WHFB Chaos Warrior model assembled without weapons and paint him in stone-like colours - one warrior-shaped tower, stuck on top of a screamer. Some cat litter (here we go again) strewn around the feet of the warrior, covering them entirely up to the knees, would help 'embed' the fellow down into the screamer; better still, reduce the warriors height by 1/4 to 1/2. The idea is a Gotham-city style statue-like edifice which can fly.
Bwaa-ha-ha and all that. :D

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