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Land Raider Terminus Ultra

 Post subject: Re: Land Raider Terminus Ultra
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:30 pm 
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+150 point/each. 2 standard LR + 3 upgraded LR Terminus Ultra = 950 point. Too many.

Formation firepower: 9×AP4+, 3×AP5+ and 2× AP5+. 5 damage and the formation is over. 950 point.

Warlord titan: 8× AP5+/AT3+, 4× AP4+/AT4+ and MW2+ (TK D3). DC8, void shield 6. 850 points.

This is very disproportionate. +100 point/ each would be a more acceptable. Opinions?

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 Post subject: Re: Land Raider Terminus Ultra
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:36 pm 
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What I did was have them as a separate upgrade. You could add one to a formation (Devs, Land Raiders, or Predators) for +100/125/whatever.

It was less overpowering, but still useful.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:48 pm 
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I admit that this is a powerful tank, so I thought that the standard LR should be upgraded to Termius Ultra type with +75 or +100 point/each.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:54 pm 
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+150 point/each. 2 standard LR + 3 upgraded LR Terminus Ultra = 950 point. Too many.


Huh? 2 Land Raiders: 2 x 75 = 150 points. 3 Terminus Ultra then would be 3 x 150 = 450. Total cost for the 5 = 600 not 950.

I agree with Simulated Knave that a 0-1 Terminus Ultra add on for other formations (the existing Land Raider formation being one of the options) would be the best way.


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Sorry. LR formation 350 point + 1 LR (75 pt) = 425 pt. 3× upgrade (150pt) = 450pt. This is 875 point.
150 points alone are not enough for LRTU. 175?

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Try 'em as just one in another formation. I think you'll find they're not as powerful in that context. I think 150 is fairly justifiable in those circumstances.

I've had them at everything from 175 to 100 in the AoS list, with about the same reaction at every price point. :P

For 200 points you can get a Land Speeder formation, and I'm pretty sure they're not as good as an entire other activation and 5 MW shots (even if they are short-ranged ones). Try 150, with them being an addition to a formation and no more than one per formation.

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