Thanks for the detailed explanation Neal.  I'm pleased that I managed to follow those rules when I use this tactic in my last game.

It is indeed a nasty tactic, as I managed to use it to run rings around the Marines.  It didn't prevent me from losing the game in question, but it was very destructive, and allowed me to account for three enemy infantry formations (in three separate turns) with only minimal losses incurred to my Eldar forces, which is just how the Eldar should be played in my opinion.

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This is wrong, Zombo.  Your answer is correct for WE transports but not normal transports.

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Neal

Hmm, guess I've been playing that wrong then!

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I've moved this topic to the general EPIC: Armageddon forum as it may be of broader interest than just Eldar players.

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So, so sum up:

troops which assaulted and won combat may consolidate 5 cm (15 cm for Eldar) then, once in base contact with the transport, the loaded transport (unless a WE) may move (35 cm for Wave Serpents).

In the case of a WE, either the troops or the WE may consolidate but not both.  

Do I have this correct now?    

No, you are still not correct. In summary, either the transport moves to the infantry, or the infantry moves to the transport.

• Where the transport forms part of the formation* (like SM Rhinos or Eldar Wave Serpents), under 1.7.5 the transport moves to pick up the infantry in the formation the infantry does not move at all.
  
  
• Separate WE operate under 3.3 which works differently. Here the infantry formation moves to the stationary WE and embarks. Additionally the WE may not subsequently move until the following turn**.
  (Incidently, this is why consolidating troops onto air transports prevents them from disengaging in the end phase, forcing them to remain landed throughout the next turn).

So when consolidating, Rhinos can use their 5cm consolidation move to move into B-B contact with their infantry to pick them up, while Eldar Wave Serpents get a full 35 cm move to pick up their troops and go elsewhere. In both cases the infantry do not move at all, which may require the transport to enter dangerous terrain.



NOTE
* If the WE is part of the formation, then 1.7.5 is used and the WE moves to the units in its formation

** The WE may have moved earlier in the turn, but may not activate once they have been boarded, and WE air transports work slightly differently again (see 4.2.7).

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....thank you!

I think a point that has been glossed over is that a formation may embark or disembark as part of making a 'Move', and there are three circumstances under which a formation can make one or more 'Moves'; normal activation; post assault consolidation; and Withdrawal once broken (though the distance each unit moves may differ under each of the circumstances).

So if withdrawing after being broken, a formation could embark as part of the first withdrawal move and disembark as part of the second withdrawal move.

It is only the consolidation move of non-Eldar units that is so constrained - in all other circumstances infantry can usually move further through the use of transport than they can on their own.

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