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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning  Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:25 pm |
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A little more information to be gleaned from this Portent thread.... 
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:42 pm |
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Well let me know what you need Maksim and I'll copy it! 
No problem! 
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:49 am |
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Hi!
Interesting stuff. Getting into this fluff a little more since I am making the new netepic cards and there are rules for these extra chapters.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:01 pm |
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As a side note: I was looking through my FW books and found out that the second Armor book has the Rinn's World stroy about the Crimson Fists in it around an Ork Battle Wagon entry.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:02 am |
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| Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 11 2004 July,15:55) | Thanks AGAIN for all of the help so far guys!
So...
Silver Skulls - Ultramarine gene seed
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Homeworld: Varsavia. (Source: Index Astartes I page 2, the fluff caption.)
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:05 pm |
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:36 am |
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Another tidbit on the Silver Skulls: Looking through the Rogue Trader book, I noticed that the Silver Skulls appear to be headhunters, with the heads and/or skulls of enemies hanging from their armor.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:21 pm |
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Thanks for all of the help, guys!
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:11 pm |
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Hey. I posted this on the SG Forum, but I know a lot of you guys don't check it and I would like to hear feedback from you also.
Here is my take on the strategies:
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*Daemon Shield - Obviously, the idea is to use the cheaper daemons which don't generate BMs when killed to shield the more expensive units behind them. This is going to work best with slow formations that can count on the daemons being in front. Plaguebearers, with a 3+ save, are obviously going to be the most effective. Flamers are the worst. You don't really need to summon a lot at one time, so no Champion is needed to increase summoning potential. Only an Icon to keep "unused" daemons in play continuously is really needed.
*One-off Assault - This is a big boost for a single assault, regarding the daemons as "disposable." This is a good option for a fast formation that can't afford to be slowed down by 15cm speed daemons hanging around after the assault. Beasts with their 20cm Infiltrate and Flamers with their high FF can provide the longest effective range. Bloodletters are obviously the best choice if you are in range for them to reach CC. In order to get as many daemons into play as possible, a Champion is in order. While some people may consider letting several 20-point daemons vanish into the warp as a waste, keeping around units which will hinder the formation's movement is a potentially large tactical disadvantage.
*Mega-assault - The classic summon/retain/summon combo for a truly astounding horde. This tactic is powerful but somewhat challenging to set up, given the need for both placement of the assaulting unit and an appropriate target where ~16 daemons won't be wasted. This makes a very good spearhead formation to charge down the enemy's throat but it is expensive. Plaguebearers and Daemonettes may be best in this tactic as they will allow a hard-hitting CC, but also provide some FF support in follow-up turns as the horde may not reach CC. It requires both an Icon Bearer and a Champion to build the large horde in 2 turns, as well as a large number of daemons [in the daemon pool].
*Pump and Dump - This is basically a series of smaller one-off assaults. It provides less of an impact in individual assaults but it maximizes tactical flexibility. Multiple Daemonic Pacts scattered around the army allows many different formations to summon from the daemon pool as needed. Some of the daemon pacts and daemons are "wasted" by lack of use or disappearing into the warp, but you have the flexibility to boost any formation when they need it most.
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Of those, I think the One-Off and Pump and Dump are the least likely to be used due to perceived waste. Personally, I really like the Pump and Dump and would like to see a slight drop in the points of a Daemon Pact to make it more viable.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:10 pm |
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Your take on it is about the same as mine. Have you looked at the adjusted greater daemon stats yet? Changed to 8 smmoning points to bring one.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:43 pm |
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| Quote (Grimshawl @ 09 2005 Aug.,10:10) | | Your take on it is about the same as mine. Have you looked at the adjusted greater daemon stats yet? Changed to 8 smmoning points to bring one. |
Can you keep discussion of that to the Yahoo Group please?
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:56 pm |
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:04 pm |
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Have you looked at the adjusted greater daemon stats yet?
Changed to 8 smmoning points to bring one.
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Post subject: Chaos 3.5 Daemon Summoning Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:28 pm |
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All will be made clear soon.
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