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Post subject: Epic40K still hanging on in there  Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:19 pm |
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| Quote (Xavi @ 30 2004 Aug.,11:18) | | Quote (dafrca @ 30 2004 Aug.,19:01) | | When you say you are looking for tanks that look different, are you looking for Proxy (non-GW)? |
Yup, that's the idea. My 40k IG army is already doing so since I am using leopards instead of regular leman russes. I thought I would go the same path if I was to collect the epic version of the force as well  |
If you want to go with Modern Stuff, there are lots of options open to you. If you want to stick to Sci-Fi there are still a few good options available.
You will want to visit Maksim's Yahoo Group for 6mm figures. He has a great set of links to many different manufacurers all who do 6mm or 1/285th scale stuff.
The URL is:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm_Miniatures/
That would give you quite a few leads.
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Post subject: Epic40K still hanging on in there Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:29 pm |
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Post subject: Epic40K still hanging on in there Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:15 am |
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OK, I have settled myself with the following. Neither 2k nor 3k: 2500 points 
Mechanized Company 450
- Hydra
- Comissar
Tank Company 650
- Vanquisher command tank (it seems nuts not to take it since it is "free" and better than a regular leman russ...)
Superheavy Tank Company (3 shadowswords) 550
- Hydra
Artillery battery (3 manticores) 250
Too good when compared with 3 basilisks, but that might be me)
Rough Rider Platoon 150
- Comissar
Sentinel Squadron 100
Storm trooper Platoon 350
- Valkyries
- Comissar
And that is all 7 formations, 60 units. Actually taking a second tank company might be better than taking the shadowswords. What do you think?
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Post subject: Epic40K still hanging on in there Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:58 pm |
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Overall, I like the list. Two thoughts for you:
| Quote (Xavi @ 06 2004 Sep.,20:15) |
Superheavy Tank Company (3 shadowswords) 550
- Hydra |
I would have three Baneblades as well in your collection and switch them out based on the army I was going to play. For example, against bugs the Baneblades are much more effective. If I did not know who I was fighting then I would take two Shadowswords and one Baneblade.
| Quote (Xavi @ 06 2004 Sep.,20:15) | Artillery battery (3 manticores) 250
Too good when compared with 3 basilisks, but that might be me) |
Keep in mind that the Manticores are slow fire and the Basilisks are not. Also if needed the Basilisks have an AP/AT rate and the Manticore does not.
So again, based on the army I am going to fight, I might want the faster fire (every turn) and the option of AT or AP shots rather then the slower fire.
Anyway, these are just nit picky things, but worth thinking about.
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Post subject: Epic40K still hanging on in there Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:00 pm |
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Point taken. I pretend the list to be an all-rounder, so I will go for your baneblade + 2 shadowswords combo.
On the artillery issue, I think that I will keep the manties right now. I am getting an artillery company there (6 basilisks + 3 manticores) so getting each one of them should be easy enough. Right now I have the following issues, though:
1) The 6 BP every 2 turns seems much more powerful than 3 BP per turn. Seems that there are clear breaking points in the barrage table, so I think that the manties are more powerful, even if they are slow firing. remember that the manties place one blast marker per hit, not per destroyed unit. This means that they can have a massive impact if I plan to assault an enemy formation
2) If I wanted to fire directly at the opponent I would be getting a hydra battery and save 100 points in the process. Not sure that the flexibility that the basilisks provide is a bonus here. A force should be flexible, but in general this is achieved through combined arms. In general, unspecialized units are overall weaker than specialized ones. At least my experience playing WH fantasy has told me that.  It is better to have specialized units acting together. The result is much more powerful than having "average" units that can deal with everything acting together. To shot at enemy formations I have other units (tanks and infantry). The issue of artillery is to rain death from above to the enemy. At least I see them like that.
So far so good. In any case this needs heavy playtesting! but I am still unsure that the artillery change would be good. In a company the basilisk wins hands down. However, in a battery sized formation I think that the upper hand goes to the manties. I might be wrong and massive defeats against me will teach me that but still. Thanks for the input 
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