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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:15 am 
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Hi,
  I've finally got round to down loading the new rules for EPIC and I've started to dust off some of my old figures.

I was wondering if any of the more experienced players can give me some advice on Ork army composition.

I've started reading the rules but nothing beats good in game experiance.  So any help on what should be used (so that I don't waste time painting 20 Pulsa rockits when they are no use any more) would be great.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:45 am 
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I haven't played EpicA for a number of months now, so my experiance is now dated.

What I was finding useful, was large mobs of Orks (as usual) Stompas, Dreads, Kults of speed were very useful.  Especially with a speedsta.  Though I think the last version I saw had taken them out.

There are other players here of Orks (Jimbo and Maksim among others) who can help better.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:22 pm 
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It depends on your preference in armies.  I like fast and  (more importantly) shooty, so I play mostly Bad Moons style.

Some of my favorite formations:

Da Nobz - Big Blitz Brigade (mix of gun and flak wagonz), 4 Nobz/Boyz, 1 Oddboy upgrade (SupaZzap/Weirdboy Battletower)

Da Boyz - Warband in Battlefortress

Da Big Mob - Big Warband, 8 Wagonz

Shooty Boyz - Bug or Uge Gunzmob, 2 Nobz/boyz, 2 Boyz/Grotz

Trakkboyz - Big KoS, 5 each Wartrakks and Scorchas

Big Stompas - Stompamob, 3 Dreads, Supastompa... or Big Stompamob, 3-4 dreads, 2-4 kans

Tankboyz - Blitz Brigade, 1-2 GunFortresses

Flyboyz - Big fighta-bomma mob

Landaz (3 formations)
- 2 Assault Boats
- Stormboyz formation w/ 4 Dethkoptaz (in one AB)
- Stormboyz formation w/ 4 Dethkoptaz (in the other AB)


Of course, Jervis is still tweaking the final Ork list, so some of those may need to be adjusted when the list comes out.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:37 am 
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I'm thinking of buying some IG infantry, to go with my impulse purchase of some super-heavy tanks and manticores. Since the last time I bought Epic stuff was back in the early 90's when Adeptus Titanicus was still about, I don't actually know what stuff I should be getting.

I know I'll need some infantry, but I've noticed that Epic 40k infantry are on long stands rather than the square stands of Space marine troops. Assuming this is just a cosmetic change, what is the difference between the old SM imperial guard figures and the new Epic 40k figures? Is the unit mix on the sprues different? How's the quality of the SM stuff compared to the E:40k miniatures? Heck, can I even get plastic Epic stuff any more?

I suppose after that, I'd be getting at least a tank platoon or so, and some transports to make my troops into an armoured company, but at the moment, I'm more worried about the infantry stands, since they seem to be the hardest to get?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:37 am 
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Nope, no plastic IG available, at least not from GW.  :(  The E40k sprue had minis from two regiments, Catachans and Valhallans. No more generic IG from planet x. No more jump pack IG.  :(  The heavy weapons were different, resembling heavy MGs or small cannon.

The new E-A IG minis will be metal.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:02 am 
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The new E-A IG minis will be metal.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:04 am 
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Damn that went wrong... :O

Oh well the post was meant to be: Are you sure *ALL* IG inf. will be metal?

I think I read something about the old plastic sprues being redone? Or am I just halucinating?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:18 am 
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Basic infantry for all the armies will be plastic. The sprues will be half the size of the E40K ones & not contain the "specialist" pieces - these will be cast in metal.

The Valhallan infantry from E40K are far superior in detail from the SM "codex grey" pieces. However, I'm no great fan of the Catachan sculpts that come on the E40K sprue.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:26 am 
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Quote (Serps @ 03 2003 Nov.,14:37)
Heck, can I even get plastic Epic stuff any more?

You can get the e40k era sprues through GWUS Mail Order no problem

I went a little sick and got 25 IG sprues earlier this year...but then I looked sane compared to some of us here didnt I...Hmmm?

Then again, I have used/traded almost all of them by now, so maybe I didnt get enough after all on second thoughts.... :p

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:33 pm 
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Hi!

As Tas mentioned you can still get some plastics through, GWUS mail order, dont know how long the stocks will last though.

As mentioned, new sprues will be basic troops with specialist in metal.

As far as the game systems go, the bases dont make any difference, so base them as you like.

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I prefer the long bases (rectangles) because I like the look better and...

They're much easier to paint!

I still use the square bases and pennies for some things (support weapons, command stands, etc.).

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Heresy!!! Putting models on bases before you paint them! :)

No wonder you have a hard time painting them. What base I like reallly depends on the unit and army.


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Yes, you can get E40K plastic IG sprues from G/W US as has been mentioned.  However, check eBay, you can usually find some of the original "old IG", as well as the E40K types, for sale there.  That being said, they may not be cheap, "So let the Buyer Beware !"   I have and use all types, Old Guard (SM1&2), Cats & Vals (E40K), etc., "Let the Traitors Beware !"   :D

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Are you aiming that at me Tas? Indeed, I did buy 40 sprues of Guard, and they are ALL still on the sprues! But I have plans for every last one of them in my Steel Legion forces.

Are the Epic:A guard sprues going to have the Valhalans as Steel Legion troopers does anyone know?

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Yeah, far as I know thats true- can't see why not as they look great as Steel Legion- a look at the Dropship article tells you that! :;):

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