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(colonel_sponsz @ Jun. 04 2007,10:20)
QUOTE Originally Posted by Colonel_Sponz The background in Codices Tau and IA3. See my earlier post in this thread for some numbers.
Yes. The numbers you put earlier suggest that the Fire Warriors make up the bulk of the numbers of the Tau Empire's army on Taros. I don't dispute that they are often very numerous. What I dispute is that they are the core.
The core, logically, is the central component. The singularly important point, one might say. The reactor core, the warp core etc. They're all very small components of the greater thing, yet very important in the things function. 'Historically' and 'canonically' Fire Warriors tend not to be this. Everpresent, is the word used to describe them. Numbers imply they are bulky.
As previously noted, it is the commander formations that are implied to be the core of the army. In Codex: Tau Empire, page 13, under the section headed Battles, a clear case is put that emphasises the importance of planning. If my experience in planning is anything to go by, this insinuates that the force commanders will always be the crucial core of any Tau force. And we know that commanders are typically situated in battlesuits (though as we know, they come in larger things too, like Mantas, modified Orcas and indeed monitoring starships).
The case, therefore, is rather simple: regardless of what Fire Warriors are in the Tau Empire, I would argue they are not the core. Even basic 'line' fire warriors are only 'everpresent'. And even then, it isn't unfathomable that there will be Epic-scale Tau armies without them.
Originally posted by Evil and Chaos It's worth noting too that in 40k the following choices are 1+ for Tau armies (Meaning you always have to have at least one formation of them).
- Crisis Suit Command Squad. - Fire Warrior Squad.
The Crisis suits are the Elites of the army, the Fire Warriors are the line-infantry, the Troops.
Maybe for smaller missions the Tau might pick only Crisis Suits or Pathfinders, but Fire Warriors should be at the core of every full-sized Tau army.
As I say: No they shouldn't. They should be present except in very interesting alternative/innovative plans, but they should not be the core. The case for core stands with, well, pretty much everything but 40k troops choices (and drones).
The case, properly, would be that Fire Warriors should be desirable such that the fill a very useful role in Epic Armies, such that you are missing something very useful if you're not taking them. But they shouldn't be the core and they shouldn't be compulsary.
If they're to be a common sight (in fair numbers) in Epic Tau Armies, then it is because they should be worthwhile additions to the Tau Army, not because they're compulsary.
Similarly, however, the likes of Hammerheads, Pathfinders, Crisis Battlesuits and Stealth Battlesuits are all very logical items to fall under this heading and argument too.
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