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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:15 pm 
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Hello chaps,

      I saw this on eBay and was somewhat confused. As far as i'm aware there has NEVER been a plastic Reaver titan...

      So either this is a home cast resin Reaver or the chap is giving a majorly false description.

      Is anyone aware of a plastic Reaver?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:21 pm 
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Lead titan with a plastic weapon on top. Poor description in other words.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:22 pm 
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It doesn't look plastic to me except for the missile on top?  Just a mistake in the listing by the seller I'd pick.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:06 pm 
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Ah, gotcha :).

Cheers for the eludcidation chaps!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:32 am 
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Damn eBay novices ... couldn't ID a Romulan from a Vulcan !!!!  :alien:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:57 pm 
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Well I'm the buyer of said item, payment sent on the day of sale. I'll tell you when (if) I recieve the model...
I've come across loads of weird sales on ebay though, 'Ere we go! was in "Chess books" and Imrik was in 'Nids...
Don't get me started on the waves of VOID minis swamping the IG section.
Mistake Metal for plastic,  ???  I've seen worse though.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:08 pm 
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Further to my earlier post the item is still "Payment Pending" 6 days after the end of the auction.
I've waited till his other auctions had finished before I posted this in the hope that he would get a move on once his other deals ended, so far nothing.
I've gone through his feedback, he has 2 negatives and 2 neutral which I'll paste below; I've also run a search on him which shows him to have played at GW Macclesfield event on 9th October 2004 and a WPS event in 2003.

-  Payed and didn't receive item after a month. No communication. selios ( 61)  08-Jan-06 13:18
Reply by armuzzy (09-Jan-06 12:57):
complained after 2 weeks, I was away on holiday emailed when back but no reply?
Follow-up by selios (10-Jan-06 17:04):
Complained after 3 weeks without answer. That let's you a while to check emails.
  -- (#8731328975)

/  Great items, well packaged but slow delivery. (4 weeks) theodanuk ( 251)  04-Jan-06 09:58
 -- (#8731288957)

/  Great product, slow delivery blacknor ( 106)  10-Dec-04 00:07
 -- (#5934064451)

-  LEAVES NEGFEEDBACK EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE TRIED YOUR BEST. DONT DEAL- TOTAL PRATT lorrainejt ( 418)  11-Nov-04 08:42
Reply by armuzzy (11-Nov-04 15:27):
See my feedback for why I left negative. Abusive language not in Ebay spirit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:51 pm 
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PayPal lists the seller as unregistered. I've contacted him and I'll post the messages below. If anyone has had a similar situation or knows what to do now please contact.

Red:
It's been a week since the auction ended, I am therefore asking for the status of the item and what steps you are taking towards delivery.

Armuzzy:
please send payment to paypal account andymusgrove@aol.com.
if you are haveing difficulty please contact

Thxs Muzzy

Red:
Payment was sent via Paypal on the 18th as per the invoice.

Plastic Imperial Reaver Titan for epic game Item number: 180129515932
This item is pending payment through PayPal. Payment was sent to: andrewmusgrove@aol.com on 18-Jun-07.

Armuzzy:
i have not recieved payment for this item asof
26th/06/07

if you wish this item please send $14.62 to paypal account andymusgrove@aol.com.

Thankyou muzzy  


Red:
According to PayPal the Funds have been deducted from my account. They list their current status as "Unclaimed" which according to their Status of Payments page;

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Payments Sent: Your payment may be unclaimed for one of three reasons:

The recipient has not signed up for a PayPal account and has not yet received your payment.
The recipient has a Personal account (which cannot receive card-funded payments) and has not yet upgraded or declined payment.
The recipient has a Premier or Business account and has chosen to individually accept or decline each payment transaction without a Confirmed Address. If you chose not to provide a Confirmed Address when you sent the payment, then the recipient has not yet accepted or declined your payment.

The funds have been deducted from your PayPal balance. You may cancel this payment by clicking ?Unclaimed? and then ?Cancel Payment?. Please note that all ?Unclaimed? transactions will be cancelled after 30 days.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:56 pm 
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Sounds fishy to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:04 pm 
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I'd claim fraud and reclaim the money via Paypal before he absconds with it, if I were you.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:47 pm 
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I've contacted PayPal and got the following responce;

Dear Red,

Thanks for contacting PayPal. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you
with your questions.

I understand that you sent a payment to a seller but he has not received
the payment yet. Upon review of your PayPal account, I can see that the
payment of ?14.62 GBP was sent to an email address not registered on the
PayPal system. This could be because you may have mistyped his email
address or he has not signed up for a PayPal account yet. I suggest that
you contact the seller and inform him about this. You also have the
option to cancel the payment and resend it to the correct email address.
Please allow me to provide you the instructions on how this can be done.

Here's what you need to do to cancel an 'Unclaimed' transaction:

  1.  Log in to your account at https://www.paypal.co.uk

  2.  Click the 'History' tab.

  3.  Select the relevant dates in the Date box and click 'Search' .

  4.  Click 'Cancel' in the Action column of the unclaimed transaction.
(You may only cancel a payment that has a status of 'Unclaimed' and a
'Cancel' button in the Action column).

  5.  Click 'Cancel Payment'.

  6.  The funds from the cancelled payment will be returned to either
the sender's credit card or the balance of their PayPal account,
depending on the funding source used for the original payment. A credit
to a credit card may take up to 30 days to process, depending on the
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:55 pm 
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Well, i'd cancel it, but it's up to you if you wanna risk it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:11 pm 
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I figure I'll give him till next Monday to sort it out then cancel after I drop negative feedback and stick him on several bad trader notice boards.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:13 pm 
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From Armuzzy:

By the information you sent they have not changed my account name yet.
it has changed to andymusgrove@aol.com

If you take back the money and resend it to the above account then it should work.
Sorry for all the trouble this is causing and thxs for replying to emails.

Muzzy
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Transaction cancelled and funds sent to above account 28th June 2007. Transaction status; Completed.

A few technical problems so far but progress has been made, Back to watching the post now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:57 am 
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Give me his Grid Coordinates - I'll call in CAS or FA or Both !  :laugh:  But seriously, good luck on this. With E-biz, we put a lot of trust in the guy on the other end of the e-deal ... I'm lucky, I've never been "burned" (yet?!). But it appears that the Worldwide Postal System has lost a couple of packages ...

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