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Elysian Sentinels
Honda	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:34 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	This topic will be used to support discussions on the various Sentinel units in the Elysian list _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment
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Cosmic Serpent	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:30 am
Brood Brother Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:56 am Posts: 137 Location: Chicago	Thought I'd start with my thoughts. If given the freedom to have the Sentinels I would want - I'd have four versions. I would start with the multi melta and heavy bolter versions that are in IA3 and cover the MW and AP variants.  Adding to this, I would like to see something that has a little AT punch to it - so I would like to see a lascannon version to add a little reach out and touch you AT support.  Finally I would like to see the rocket pod support sentinel (or some sort of support sentinel) as that is also covered in IA3 and probably pretty core to the Elysians from a fire support perspective. I think the Sentinels are somewhat core the Elysian force (as described in IA3) - so four variants to cover all bases wouldn't be out of line.
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Honda	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:36 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	? In the new list that should be posted soon, I put in three versions of the Sentinel, under the two categories described previously: 1. Drop Sentinel, comes in a Multi-melta and Heavy Bolter version as detailed in IA3. The MM stats were borrowed from the SM Landspeeder. 2. Support Sentinel, allows for a moderately ranged BM support. I appreciate your suggestion for an AT sentinel, but I did not add an anti-tank version as IA3 does not support it, even though there is probably a need for one. However, the Elysians are not going to be able to deal with all threats and in fact are susceptible to combined arms responses that include a fair amount of armor. They are going to have to find a way to deal with that threat in other ways. They do have other tools for that. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment
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Cosmic Serpent	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:35 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:56 am Posts: 137 Location: Chicago	I agree - I was just looking at where the army seems to be weak (which is OK) and I agree there are other ways we'll have to deal with heavy armor. I figure a couple squadrons of Valkyries can help with the armor issue? Glad to hear the support sentinels made it into the list - I really think they are a key element that is somewhat unique to teh Elysians and needs to be in there in some form. PS - if in the future you need someone to convert it to .pdf and put it somewhere to be linked to, I can do that as well.  Anything we can do to help you out.
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Tactica	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:29 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am Posts: 2241	Per IA3, the way I see it... 4 Elysian sentinels, 2 categories A)  Drop Sentinels ?- no scout ?- may teleport ?- may ride in a valkyrie 1) Heavy bolter (30cm AP5+) 2) Multi-melta (15cm MW5+ AND 'small arms' MW) B)  Support Sentinels ?- no scout ?- no teleport ?- may ride in valkyrie 1) MRP (30cm 1BP, Disrupt) 2) Support Missle Launcher (30cm AT5+, Indirect Fire) Cheers, _________________ Rob
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Honda	Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:32 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	@Tactica Give the list a gander, you were really close. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment
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jfrazell

Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:26 pm

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Drop sentinel squad- is it an either/or choice or can they mix HB's/MM's? Notes: Walker, count up the number of Sentinel units that can fire at the target formation and divide by two (rounding up) to find the number of rocket pod shots you may take Should that be " to find the number of rocket pod shots you can shoot?" I am assuming this done to replicate delays in firing - replicating Slow Firing via another route? _________________ "Advance to the Rear!"

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Honda

Post subject: Elysian Sentinels Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:39 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas

Drop sentinel squad- is it an either/or choice or can they mix HB's/MM's? They can be mixed in IA3, so does that need to be stated? Sort of the same thing as two versions of predators. I'm easy to amending the text either way.   Notes: Walker, count up the number of Sentinel units that can fire at the target formation and divide by two (rounding up) to find the number of rocket pod shots you may take

Should that be " to find the number of rocket pod shots you can shoot?"

I am assuming this done to replicate delays in firing - replicating Slow Firing via another route?


I suppose that is one way to look at it. My assumption is that the Support Sentinels would not have a ROF as high as a similar type of vehicle borne weapon (e.g. Griffon), therefore, to lessen their impact, I cut down on their BP value.