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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:37 pm 
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I must admit to being a scale snob. :{

I do not like to own the same models that are of different scales. I do not mind a slight shift from "type to type" but I do not like to have two Baneblades, one of the FW and the other of the original metal. Either I want both one or the other.

Anyway, before I buy Valkyries from either source, does anyone have both that could take a few shots to show how different they realy are in size? This could make a differance for me.

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:11 pm 
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Dafrca, I ordered all the remaining FW stuff, so give it a few weeks until it arrives and I will give you comparative photos.

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:22 pm 
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I agree on the scale thing, it makes both of them look wrong. Thats why I've stuck with ordering large no's of FW valkryies and will only get a few metal if they are very close scale.
Heres to snobbery :laugh:  :laugh:
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:31 pm 
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Quote (primarch @ 14 2004 May,13:11)
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Dafrca, I ordered all the remaining FW stuff, so give it a few weeks until it arrives and I will give you comparative photos.

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Thanks Primarch. I can wait, it's not like I do not have tons to paint already, between Epic and my 15mm Sci-Fi forces.  :blush:

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:52 pm 
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I agree on the scale thing, it makes both of them look wrong.

I started to see this back when I first started my 1/285th scale modern collection. I bought HUMVEEs or M113 variants from more then one company. Then when you placed them on the table I had a HUMVEE bigger then one of the M113s and the M113s where three different sizes. Made it look odd.  ???

Later on I saw the same thing with my friends 15mm WWII vehicles. Shermans from different sources were not the same scale. Very odd.

So I have tried to stick to one company for most stuff. In the case of Forge World and GW, even though they seem to be the same company in ownership, they seem to have the same issues. Models not the same scale. I look at the Wolfhounds, shape differances aside, and they were different in size. Same for all the super heavies.

Anyway, I am ranting, so I will stop.  :blush:

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:25 am 
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Dafrca,

I know what you mean, but I still like variety. I've found that I just keep all the pieces of one type to a unit that the disparities aren't so bad.

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Hi!

If there is one thing I have learned regarding epic over the years is that you dont sweat the scale.

Its never been consistent, never has, never will. As long as the individual model looks good and I have fun using it, thats all that really matters.....  :;):

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Quote (primarch @ 14 2004 May,20:03)
Hi!

If there is one thing I have learned regarding epic over the years is that you dont sweat the scale.

Its never been consistent, never has, never will. As long as the individual model looks good and I have fun using it, thats all that really matters..... ?:;):

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I do not have an issue with scale overall from Epic.  What I do not want is to have two Rhinos next to each other and have one clearly larger then the other. Or to have my company of three baneblades with two much smaller then the third.

I do not mind that the Rhino, the marine, and the Thunderhawk are each slightly different scale. That is not big deal to me.

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Agree on the scale in the same force situation. As long as they are in diffrent formations or armies its okay. Or if no one points it out on the battle field, it's a sure fire way of me targeting it with irrational amounts of weapons.
The M113 are a very good example especialy in 10mm/ 1/200th scale, gets confusing! :p
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Dafrca, all I do is what you suggest, keep same type of models within one detachment, while separate detachments may have different models.

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I agree with the issue of scale. I don't know if this makes me anal retentive but I absolutely hate having different style figures in the same detachment. Just as well that I don't play Orks then! :)

Even having them in different detachments, as primarch suggested, makes me a bit uneasy.

So there is unfortunately only one answer. Multiple armies!! never a probem for gamers at the best of times but even easier in Epic scale.

So one army will be only new shiny Epic A figures. Another will be purely old TL era figures. And could probably squeeze in 3rd with E40k style figures.

Problem solved!!
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I use everything from all Epic releases from SM1 on, in my 9 Epic armies.  Scale is never going to be 100%, but we adapt and work with it !  :;):

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Though im not exactly a scale "snob" I also try to maintain at least some degree of scale coherency within each army but since I'm developing several different IG armies I don't mind eg. haveing metal Baneblades in one army and FW ones in another. It's only when they get mixed up things start getting messy (like having StormHammers and FW Super Heavies in the same army). Though I really llike the level of detail on the FW flyers I'll probably never buy them since the scale difference is just too big IMO. (only exception might be the Ork Bommerz -Orks don't really care too much about coherency anyway...)
I actuallly prefer the smaller metal flyers since it adds to the feeling of massive scale to have thhings as small as possible... I know it sounds strange, but I prefer my tanks and Infantry as small as possible and my titans as big as possible. ...But then again the bigger the models the more detail -it's allways a dilemma... :-:

I've ordered the SG Valks and Vultures and will probably stick to those. Only problem is that the suggestion of adding door gunners sounds really cool but might be a bit more difficult on the smaller metal models.
Hmmm... I wonder where I put those Ork warbyuggy gunners... Would probably loook great with the FW Valk... I feel a conversion coming on... :blues:

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Hi!

With me, since I've accumulated so much stuff, scale tends to be meaningless since who would notice a size discrepency when theres thousands of points on the board...

...not me for sure...  :D

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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 15 2004 May,06:16)
Even having them in different detachments, as primarch suggested, makes me a bit uneasy.

So there is unfortunately only one answer. Multiple armies!! never a probem for gamers at the best of times but even easier in Epic scale.

So one army will be only new shiny Epic A figures. Another will be purely old TL era figures. And could probably squeeze in 3rd with E40k style figures.

Problem solved!!

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