Hi guys, I'm looking for some models to proxy as chaos defilers (I've seen some cracking scratchbuilds around, but they all look a bit too fiddly for me).

I've been compiling a list of what I consider some of the best possibilities, and was looking for some feedback or other suggestions.

Vanguard Miniatures - Cybershadows Warcrab
http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/cy ... -warcrabs/


35mm long and 40mm wide


Architects of War - Shock Drones
http://www.architectsofwar.com/preorder ... ones3.aspx


(two other drone variants are also available)


Onslaught Miniatures - Kappa Sentry Rigs
http://www.onslaughtmini.com/154-kappa-sentry-rigs.html


28x28x12mm


Hawk Wargames - Prowlers
http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/prowler-pack


~12mm tall


Hawk Wargames - Stalkers
http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/stalker-pack


~29mm tall


Microworld Games - Kreen Scuttler MKI & MKII (thanks Apocolocyntosis!)
http://www.microworldgames.com/products/scuttler-mk-ii


L: 20mm (hull) H: 20mm W: 23mm (legspan)


Ground Zero Games - V15-84A Spider Drones
http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index ... ct_id=1533


individually (not like in this photo) fit snugly on a 20mmx20mm infantry base (thanks for the info lylekelm!)



Westfalia Miniatures - Steam Crabs
http://westfalia-miniatures.com/shopste ... y=12486413




Any other good suggestions? I'm updating thise post with people's ideas.

MWG Kreen walkers: http://www.microworldgames.com/collecti ... cifi/Kreen

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Thanks, I knew I'd seen them somewhere before, but couldn't track them down again!

I think you'll find the dzc prowlers too small. I'd recommend looking at the stalker.

You might be right there. Found their original site:

http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/prowler-pack

Apparently they are ~12mm tall each, which makes them about the same as a rhino (although they look longer/wider to me).

The stalkers are alot bigger (apparently ~29mm tall)

Hawk Wargames - Stalkers
http://www.hawkwargames.com/products/stalker-pack



They have a very specific look and feel to them though, that might make a great daemon engine, but not to my personal taste at least for a defiler. The legs look great though. Maybe I could make some basic conversions to them...

Thanks for the info regardless!

GZG spider drones?

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Those look pretty cool. As it's not the stock photo I see on their site, can I assume those are yours? Got an idea of the size of them?

Ground Zero Games - V15-84A Spider Drones
http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index ... ct_id=1533




They seem to be 3 to a base on the GZG site so I'd initially assumed they would be really small, although if those blue squares underneath are representing 1cm squares, it might actually be a pretty good size.

Here they are on an old 20 x 20 infantry sized base.

Good to see a picture....i hope the Vanguard Miniatures - Cybershadows Warcrab is a little bigger but not taller. I like the height, but for me defiler should bee bigger than a SM Land Raider. Just a bit....

Found a picture of the cybershadows warcrab in action by a user on this forum (@ringo). Not next to any official GW models (unless that's the heroquest gargoyle I see!), but some other proxy models that should give you a good enough idea of it's size (as well as a standard 40K round slotta base):



Here is the thread in which he posted it (where you can click it for a much better zoomed in view, it's the last/5th picture in the first post):
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=28924

Good picture, seems like the Warcrab was a good choice, i already ordered some!

Wow, very nice too!

Really nice. You are right that the price is a bit of a killer. 8 quid for three and I'd be sold! I assume they are roughly the right scale?