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Plastic Infantry & transports sprue, crowdfunding.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:12 pm 
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You know, if people want separate sprues for each race, you could meet that quite easily with the current sprue and 10 seconds with heavy wire cutters...

I think that's something we could offer, albeit with a bit of a price bump as it'd leave us with a lot of dead stock if one army is dramatically more popular than the other.

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Out of interest, what was the thinking behind the choice of armies?

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Out of interest, what was the thinking behind the choice of armies?

Humans have a probably the widest appeal, and noone makes 6mm scale hulked-up humanoids right now at all as far as I know. Plus, everyone knows that hulked-up mutants/aliens carrying close combat weapons (whatever they are, nobody's named them yet!) are the natural enemies of humans with rifles.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:01 pm 
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We want them too! But please, redesign the terrible alien potato carrier ;D


+1 on that! :P

But since I have noticed that the new alien potato carrier design has an attractive ramshackly track section, I have taken a leap of faith that the drivercabin will soon be reorganized into dyssymmetry and ramshackliness too (pretty please with sugar on top? :-\ ). Two boxes pledged!

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I like the version 2 tracks better.

The drivers cabin - is there a reason it looks like great big plate-glass windows? I can see the point in a construction vehicle, but not on a brutish humanoid fighting vehicle - riveted armour plated with tiny viewports seem more appropriate.

Mind you, I'll take them either way :)


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Going back to the design of that vehicle.

The next point should be to redo the drivercompartment. It currently makes the vehicle look like something that you'd expect scuttling about on the slopes of ski resorts. Make it look tough by adding random-looking plating and narrow vision slits. Judging by the already present level of detail, this is quite within the limits of plastics and modeling that should take about no time at all.

After that, add hefty smokestacks, preferably to the rear. Ramshackleness demands dangerously exposed machinery, and hot exhausts is a minimum of uccupant hazardry.

*Edit: Beaten by the clock it seems. Well. That only means I was right in the first place ;D

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A note on random looking elements - they will of course look exactly the same on every vehicle.

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Could the hulk's gun item be replaced with a piece to fit over the top of an exposed cab? A cleverly-designed plug-in would mean you could have a ramshackle open-top cab version, a version with a hulk/slave/boss plugged in to the cab, or an enclosed alternative ramshackle cab.

The plug-in cab/roof could have a gun built in, changing the pick-up transport to a mini gun-toting fighting vehicle.

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There's presumably no reason the human vehicle's turret couldn't be used in the same way, if it's feasible. With a universal joint/plug-in, you'd give options for lots of different bits:
1) Open/flat-topped human vehicle, open cab alien.
2) Human vehicle with human turret, alien vehicle with alien turret.
3) Open/flat-topped human vehicle, alien vehicle with human turret.
Etc.

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A note on random looking elements - they will of course look exactly the same on every vehicle.


Good point :)

Random plates of armour can be easily added to these with plastic sheet. Being that these are plastic allows for much easier conversion potential.

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A note on random looking elements - they will of course look exactly the same on every vehicle.

Yes, good point. But symmetry is neither synonymous to random nor a desired design element. As previous speakers have mentioned, offsetting the driver to the left or right and getting rid of the huge windscreen makes it look less like a tracked 80's station wagon.

That and crude exhausts.... 8)

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I like your re-iteration of other people's ideas in a manner that I can understand, Nitpick! :-p

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Following this with interest, enjoyable watching it evolve into something that should be what the community needs going forwards and also a successful venture for TMG...

I'm another in the post-panic-buy-now-waiting-for-payday camp, will contribute in a week or so :)

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
I like your re-iteration of other people's ideas in a manner that I can understand, Nitpick! :-p

Carthago delenda est. You do my bidding, I might shut up ;D

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One of the biggest issues for me though in deciding, is the expandability of the project? What products would follow the plastic boxset, either through stretch goals or later releases?

It depends on the level of funding, but I hope to start introducing some metal models as stretch goals once/if we hit £3500 for the "advanced" version of the core plastic sprue.

Those metal models would include tanks, super-heavy tanks, leaders and other infantry types.
We'd also hope to get some other infantry types onto the plastic sprue.


This is good to hear, and I look forward to seeing pictures as you get closer to the high funding levels.

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These look absolutely fantastic. Would these, or anything like these, be upcoming projects or goals depending on the success of your funding project? Presumably there would also be plans for the Hulked Up Aliens to gain some vehicles of their own, or else battles would be rather one sided. I’ve seen the ‘basilisk’ one listed separately later in the thread, and the APC made it onto the initial sprue, but I haven’t seen the main battle tank make a reappearance.

I've scrapped that old MBT design, it's been replaced with the new Churchill-inspired tank design that you linked to. It's a standard tank in size (3cm long), rather than a super-heavy (5cm+).


This is less good to hear. I liked the MBT design. Just a matter of personal aesthetics though. That said the Churchill one looks very detailed for only 3cm long.

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Very slight variety in the poses would also be excellent if possible, as it breaks up the uniformity, but the models (particularly the human infantry) are already great! Is it possible to ‘reflect’ any of the models so that the guns face the other way? This seems like a simple way to add a very visual difference without needing to design new models. I may very well be wrong though; I know less about model design than I do about real world tanks!

We'll be doing everything we can to get as much variety as possible on the sprues. We're cutting the margins as slim as we rationally can so that as much cash as possible gets funneled into expanding what's on offer.

Good stuff! :)

Thanks for the responses. Keep up the good work. Particularly pictures! ;)


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This is less good to hear. I liked the MBT design. Just a matter of personal aesthetics though. That said the Churchill one looks very detailed for only 3cm long.


Have a dig around on the forum, when people are working in resin or metal detail can get astonishing. There was some grumbling here when E&C was explaining the limits of plastic...

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