normal and TK shots in same shooting match |
|
AgeingHippy
|
Post subject: normal and TK shots in same shooting match  Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:02 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
 |
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:34 pm
Posts: 213
Location: York, North Yorkshire
|
|
Hi All
Assuming a Warlord is attacking another WE.
The warlord has 16 AT shots + 1 TK(D3) shot.
How would one work this since it is of course preferable to shoot away the void shields using the normal AT shots and then use the TK weapon to blast the hull.
Is it acceptable to shoot with the AT shots first, (hopefully) taking down the void shields and then the TK weapon on the hull?
Thanks
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Dave
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:06 pm |
|
| Hybrid |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9525
Location: Worcester, MA
|
|
You allocate MW (and thus TK) hits after the regular hits are allocated and saved for.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
AgeingHippy
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:12 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:34 pm
Posts: 213
Location: York, North Yorkshire
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
nealhunt
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:42 pm |
|
| Purestrain |
 |
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm
Posts: 9617
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
|
|
To expand a bit on what Dave said, there are basically 2 rounds of hit allocation. Normal AP and AT hits are allocated and resolved. Then all MW hits are allocated and resolved (starting over front to back as normal).
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
AgeingHippy
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:31 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:34 pm
Posts: 213
Location: York, North Yorkshire
|
|
Thanks Neal
Does that apply to assaults as well?
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Dave
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:44 pm |
|
| Hybrid |
|
|
Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9525
Location: Worcester, MA
|
|
It does, closest being base-to-base.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
kyussinchains
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:44 pm |
|
| Hybrid |
|
 |
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 6355
Location: Leicester UK
|
|
is this the same for hits from lance weapons too? it's how we play it in our group, but is this the 'official' way?
_________________ Just some guy My hobby/painting threads Army Forge List Co-ordinator
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Dave
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:06 am |
|
| Hybrid |
|
|
Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9525
Location: Worcester, MA
|
|
There's never been an official way for allocating Lance, or Ignore Cover. We'd probably play Lance as a separate allocation phase between regular and MW (don't think it's ever come up though). For Ignore Cover we try to maximize the hits on things in cover where possible (ie no allocating IC to things out of cover when there are other things in cover that they could go on instead).
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
zombocom
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:12 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
 |
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:49 am
Posts: 5569
|
|
Officially Lance, Ignore Cover etc are allocated with normal hits and it's up to the defender to place them, so Disrupt hits tend to hit grots, Ignore Cover hit the troops out of cover etc.
However, a lot of people play a "Gentlemen's Convention" that hits should be allocated in such a way as to make use of their special abilities wherever possible, so apply the lance hits on guys with reinforced armour etc, as long as that is possible. It's only a convention though, and not the official rule, but it's much fairer.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
kyussinchains
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:28 am |
|
| Hybrid |
|
|
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 6355
Location: Leicester UK
|
|
I assume this is the kind of thing to be discussed in the 5-minute warm up during a tournament then?
_________________ Just some guy My hobby/painting threads Army Forge List Co-ordinator
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
Mephiston
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:42 am |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:52 pm
Posts: 4262
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
MikeT
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:27 am |
|
| Hybrid |
|
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 2:55 pm
Posts: 611
|
|
Also, am I going mad, or does the warlord only get 12 AT shots, and not 16?
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
kyussinchains
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:38 am |
|
| Hybrid |
|
|
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 6355
Location: Leicester UK
|
|
yeah it's 12, 4 from the gatling cannon, 8 from the TLDs
_________________ Just some guy My hobby/painting threads Army Forge List Co-ordinator
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
AgeingHippy
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:13 pm |
|
| Brood Brother |
|
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:34 pm
Posts: 213
Location: York, North Yorkshire
|
lol Yea - my maths sucks 
|
|
| Top |
|
|
|
nealhunt
|
Post subject: Re: normal and TK shots in same shooting match Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:26 pm |
|
| Purestrain |
|
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm
Posts: 9617
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
|
|
As others said, the "special" hits are allocated as part of the appropriate round, i.e. AP and AT hits with special abilities in the first round, MW hits with special abilities in the MW round. Defender allocates the hits within the limits of the rules (closest first, in range, LOS), so the defender directs where the special ability hits go.
|
|
| Top |
|
|
