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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt  Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:22 pm |
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Has anyone heard or know of a chaos proxy list anywhere?
I am trying to put together a chaos army, and would like to assemble it under epicA, but have pieces from the old chaos forces, epic40k, and other odds and ends. Any help would be appreciated.
my questionalbe 2cents,
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:32 pm |
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There were a couple of versions of Chaos on the E:A downloads, on how to organize your Chaos forces.
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iblisdrax
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:40 pm |
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Yes, but they omit the critical section on substitutions for the old OOP chaos pieces, of which I have a lot. Namely, what do you do with the Juggernauts, Discs, and Trolls, et all? I was working out how to convert them to Epic40k stats, but don't want to go to the trouble of organizing them for epic40k when epicA is right around the corner. See my delimma?
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:09 pm |
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This is just AFAIK... I could be wrong.
Juggers/ Steeds - Bikes
Discs - Screamers of Tzeentch
Trolls, Minotaurs - Big Mutants
Beastmen - Small mutants.
Slaanesh Knights -Defilers (though I really think these deserves their own stats!)
Various Daemon Engines count as War Altars
Uhm... there's more but thesewere the ones I could just think of the top of my head.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:30 am |
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I'm not sure where you got that W/M, but it makes sense !  Good idea !
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:58 pm |
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There's no official "counts as" list for chaos yet, but that list is pretty much what people have been doing.
People have also been using Brass Scorpions as Defilers.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:08 pm |
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Hi!
Are trolls and minotaurs being reintroduced into epic A?
Anyone know?
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:39 pm |
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The closest thing to Minotaurs and Trolls are Big Mutants in the LatD list.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:27 am |
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Here's another chaos question: Do you get the same amount of sacrifices each turn, or are they one shot deals?
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:52 pm |
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They are one-shot.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:37 am |
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Just out of curiousity, where does it say that? I can't find it anywhere.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:55 pm |
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Hello all,
After looking again at my project for an armoured regiment I took army builder and decided to list them to see how it would look. The result came around the 6k-7k points mark. Not bad  I thought it might be a little bit too much for a start, though, so I decided to settle for a 3k list to start planning my display army (sadly, no epic players around here, and I don't know if I will find any in Brighton next year)
Anyway, I wanted to ask you if you think this would be a suitable armoured company (AC) formation:
- Mechanized infantry company + Hydra 450 pts
- Tank company (10 leman russ tanks) 650
- Tank company (10 leman russ tanks) 650
- Artillery Battery (3 basilisks) 250
- Artillery Battery (3 basilisks) 250
- AA Battery (3 Hydras) 150
- 3 Shadowsword Superheavy tanks 500
(NOTE: dunno if this last one is correct, but army builder didn't change its value over the baneblades....)
TOTAL: 2900. I don't know if I really lack something. Likely infantry since I only have one company (12 stands + HQ) of those dudes. I have 100 points for upgrades in case you think I need something. The list is open to any criticism. I simple selected what I thought "felt right" but have no prior knowledge of E:A rules (reading them soon, promise!  ) so I might be way out of my track here. I simple selected what "felt" right to me to be there.
What do you think? Is this worth as a "half regiment" force?
Health and sixes,
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:40 pm |
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It's pretty good but you could probably use more small formations. Two Tanks companies are by no means unheard of but you could use more activations instead. Armies with many activations will quickly be able to outmanouver you so you need cheap formations to counter this. Rough Riders, Sentinels or stormtroopers are cheap ways of achieving this but try out a few games to see if you really need them. Two Russ comapnies can still take and deal out a considerable ammount of punishment.
I say try it out a couple of times and see how it plays. I'd expand the force with more infantry and Storm troopers in Valkyries with Vulture support. Sentinels are surprisingly effective beecause of their scout ability which enables them to bog down enemy formations. At 100 points they are alllways worth their money.
Ogryns in Chimeras can also be really tough buggers. Place them in support of the Shadowswords and watch them cut through the enemy if he gets too close to your precious warengines.
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:08 pm |
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So, for what you are saying I was right in the fact that I have too few infantry. As I said I have not pl?ayed or really read the E:A rules yet, so it was more a "background organization".
The activation thingy... it is the fact that you need to activate each formation in turn adn give them the same orders, right? I read something like that a while ago...
Let's see if the following is better: basically I added an infantry company and broke down one of the leman russ companies, placing them in support of the infantry and other elements of the army.
Mechanized infantry company.
- 1 Hydra AA (50)
- 3 Griffon Battery (100)
- 3 Leman russ tanks (200) ? ? Total: 750
Mechanized infantry company.
- 1 Hydra AA (50)
- 3 Leman russ tanks (200) ? ? Total: 650
Tank company. 650 pts
Mixed Superheavy tank company (1 baneblade, 2 shadowswords) 500 pts
- Ogryns in chimeras (the "bodyguards" of the tanks) 100 ? ?TOTAL: 600 pts
Artillery battery (3 basilisks) 250 pts
Sentinel Squadron (4 sentinels) 100 pts
Now I might be running low on artillery and AA   ?lol. I suppose that 3 grigffons are not as good as 3 basilisks. Seems like a larger force, though. Basically is swaping one of the tank companies for a mechanized infantry company and adding more widespread tank support.
Sounds better? It starts to look like a mechanized formation more than an armoured formation 
EDIT: reread your post. Seems that you are suggesting that I should drop one of the main companies, leaving only one tank and one infantry companies (and also the superheavies) while investing the rest in support formations. In that case I supopose this other formation would be better:
OPTION C:
A- Mechanized company (650)
- 1 Hydra
- 3 leman russ
B- Tank company (700)
- Hydra
C- Superheavy Tank company (2 shadowswords + 1 baneblade) (600)
- Ogryns in chimeras
D- Support artillery (3 basilisks) (250)
E- Flak Battery (3 hydras) (150)
F- Storm trooper platoon in Valkyries (350)
G- Sentinels (100)
H- Sentinels (100)
I- Sentinels (100)
TOTAL: 9 formations, 72 units
Better? Actually I would have liked to take storm troopers in regular chimera transpots, since it would fit my theme better, but hey, I am unsure that this can be done....
Health and sixes,
Xavi
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Post subject: Posible IG list: 3k armoured rgt Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:47 am |
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I think Option C for the most part works for me. 3 Sentinals dets. may be too much. However you do have a respectable Tank Heavy Bn Task Force.
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