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1st Annual Black Friday Mayhem, Houston, Texas

 Post subject: 1st Annual Black Friday Mayhem, Houston, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:23 pm 
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Well, it was our first annual Black Friday Mayhem tournament. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the phrase, “Black Friday” is the label given to the Friday after Thanksgiving, where normally reasonably thinking individuals suspend their sanity for the better part of a day to pursue imaginary savings on retail products and services.

So after handling the massive line to get into Asgaard’s, we rolled for matchups and the first one particular was hotly anticipated:

Round 1: Biel Tan (getupandgo) vs. Krieg (Honda)

Round 2: Tau (getupandgo) vs. Space Marines (Honda)

The tournament organizers were careful to use the same vigorous standards for selecting opponents as international chess tournaments to ensure the necessary variety of opponents. We also spent a little time on the first round matchups to ensure that people who normally play against each other got to see some new faces.

3000 Point Army Lists:

Biel Tan:

2 revenants
1 falcon troope w/ 1 firestorm
2 aspect warrior formations; 1 w/ exarch, 1 w/ autarch
2 guardian formations w/ 3 wraithguard and 3 wraithlords each
1 ranger formation
1 Cobra
1 vampire raider

Krieg:

1 Regimental HQ; Gorgon upgrade
3 Infantry Companies, 1 company with Fire Support upgrade
1 Stormsword company
1 Deathstrike Missile Silo
2 Warhounds
1 Quad launcher (4 guns) in trenches

Tau:
3 Orcas
2 Baracuda squadrons
2 crisis suit cadres, 1 w/ shas'o
1 firewarrior formation
1 skyray wing
2 hammerhead formations w/ skyrays
1 pathfinder formation

Space Marines:

1 Space Marine Landing Craft
1 Tactical Squad, 3 Razorbacks, 2 Rhinos, 1 Hunter
2 Terminators, 1 Supreme Commander
1 Strike Cruiser
1 Tactical, 2 Dreadnoughts
1 Tactical, 1 Librarian
1 Devastators, 1 Dread, 1 Captain


Game 1 (Biel Tan vs Krieg)

Table 1 was covered with urban terrain aligned transversely with each table corner. We rolled for initiative and the Eldar won. I had placed the DS silo in front of my Blitz with in the expectation that I could use it to hold/contest that objective. Flanking it on the right were my newly painted Warhounds behind the Stormswords, an infantry company to its front, with other infantry companies garrisoned in a protective umbrella.

We both joked that each army had some serious issues with the other army and it was really going to depend on who was able minimize their weaknesses whilst capitalizing on their strengths. As the Krieg player, I knew that my chances of winning would be heavily dependent on how successful I would be at stripping activations from the Eldar.

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The Eldar opened up with an alpha strike on the DS silo, using the Vampire and loaded up aspect warriors to engage. It was with typically grim Krieg satisfaction that the silo defenders saved all the hits, dealt two back and ended up winning the assault, destroying the Vampire, and all riders in the retreat. The Eldar were horrified as they new what was happening next. In an attempt to get some use out of a formation before it disappeared, the Cobra doubled up and whacked on an infantry co. holed up in some buildings.

However, eventually all good things come to an end and with a bit of trepidation, the Eldar reluctantly yielded the initiative. The crew in the Cobra never did see what hit them.

Thus began the long dance of death between the Krieg hammer and the Eldar Rapier. Next the Revenants doubled up and fired on the Krieg RHQ, taking out a Gorgon and an infantry stand. The Krieg riposte damaged a war host, but a failed activation on by another infantry company left the war host stunned but able to recover. The Stormswords barraged another host, but failed to break through the armor of Wraithlords and Wraithguard.

The Krieg continued to shift forces to the right to deal with the Eldar attempt to turn the right flank.

Most of the formations rallied as I recall.

Turn 2

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The Eldar win initiative again. Not good. The Avatar decided to show up next to the Warhounds and carved one up completely, only taking a single wound for its efforts. The survivor withdrew to the far left near the DS silo. Retaining the initiative, the Revenants fire on the Stormswords leaving one remaining. Not wishing to miss out on carving up the turkey, the Falcon troupe lines up a few shots and takes out the last SHT. The Krieg are not happy. The rest of the turn consisted of the Krieg mounting limited infantry assaults, continuing to push into the table, whilst taking casualties. In this part of the “offensive” the Eldar Rangers were tracked down and reduced to one stand for sniping the Commissar stand. Although it didn’t feel like the Krieg were accomplishing much, they were slowly eroding the Eldar activation advantage.

Turn 3

Guess who won the initiative? Go ahead and take a guess. Nope, it was the Eldar. Even at the start of the turn we began looking at objectives. However, the Eldar needed to continue to poke at the Krieg and so, with a swift move into my center, the Falcon troupe and the associated Fire Dragons and Dire Avengers engaged the DS silo and destroyed it. The Krieg retaliated with an infantry assault on the Falcons, wiping them out, whilst the Warhound sustained on the FD+DAs. The Quad launchers also shot and broke the formation, leaving two Fire Dragons. On the right, one Warhost stretched out securing the two Krieg objectives. On the other side of the table, Krieg infantry companies returned the favor, thus forcing a turn four.

Turn 4

Oh, why be coy? The Eldar won the initiative. However, the problem facing them was not having enough formations to effectively counter the Krieg push up the board, especially with the whole warhost pinned in place holding two objectives. The Krieg problem is that although they retained a 2-3+ activation advantage, very little offensive firepower remained able to effectively engage the Eldar. The Krieg were forced to bear what punishment the Revenants handed out and grimly continue to take territory.

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At the end of the game, the Eldar and Krieg were still tied 1-1. We rolled to see if there would be another turn. We did not match and totaled up points, with the Eldar pulling out the winning tie 2250 – 1700. The Krieg took some satisfaction (i.e. the moral victory) from taking the Eldar blitz objective with an infantry company.

Break: Tallying up the points, it looked like I had a good chance at second place and if I played my cards wisely, a decent shot at first. The challenge would be that I was playing Space Marines as a drop army, which is either win big or go home. Given that I’d be playing a pretty sharp Tau player and I knew that I had my work cut out.

Game 2 (Tau vs. Space Marines)


This game seemed to run together a lot more than the first game, so I’ll just lay it out the best that I can.

After much deliberation, the Space Marines settled on the coordinates of the orbital bombardment and the drop locations. Realizing that I was going to struggle with the degree of mobility that the Tau possessed, I decided to focus on wiping out as many of the armored formations as possible and looking for some late game triples to allow me to contest a few objectives, plus with the Landing craft, perhaps pull a 2-0 win. Nothing big, just grab and hold on. I also realized that I had grabbed an old list and that there were others that might have been better. Oh well.

The Tau set up to the Space Marine right, near the Blitz, with one formation of Pathfinders near the center of the table. The OB came in and just managed to clip the Pathfinders, taking out one infantry and more importantly, one Devilfish. It was going to be extremely important that I reduce the Tau mobility as soon as possible.

I then activated my terminators and combined assaulted the large HH formation. (I blew my turn sequence on this, but getupandgo was gracious enough to allow me to continue). Unfortunately, I lost one terminator stand which opened up enough of a hole that the two surviving HHs were able to escape, which was pretty much the last time I saw his BTS.

The Tau then put a flight of Barracuda’s up on CAP. Which made me smile. I wasn’t as worried about them as I was the Skyrays. So one of the tacticals engaged the Skyray formation and wiped it out. The Ion cannon HHs then fired on my other drop tactical formation and beat them up pretty bad, leaving a dread. I then followed up with a ground assault with the Landing Craft and the mechanized tac squad, wiping out the Ion cannon HH formation. The Tau then tripled a FW formation over to my side of the board and grabbed two objectives. Seeing as I had pretty much done all that I could do, the Tau proceeded to move the Pathfinders over to my terminator squads and take one down. That bugged me. After that, a couple of failed activations on the Tau part closed down the turn. Pretty much all of the space marines blast markers were removed. The broken BTS for the Tau did not rally.

Turn 2

Space Marines win initiative.

I decide to take out the Pathfinders and ground assault them with the Landing Craft. And win. ;D

Unfortunately, the Tau respond with an Orca ground assault with Crisis and wipe out the Landing craft. There goes my mobility.

The Space Marines drive the mechanized tac formation into the mid board, but realize that I don’t have anything left that will allow me to catch up to the Tau and engage them on my terms…or any terms for that matter.

Turn 3

The Space Marines win initiative.

By now, there’re only a few things I can do and most of those actions revolve around killing things. So my termies mosey over to where the Orca landed Crisis are, shooting them and they break.

The mech tac is assaulted by another Orca + Crisis formation and breaks. In retribution, they deal out enough hits that the Crisis also break. The Orca stays on the ground giving another tac formation something large to shoot at and they blow it up.

We fiddle around with some pointless maneuvering, but at the end of the turn the Tau are ahead 3-1. It should have been 3-2, but I was sloppy with my measuring and missed taking the Tau Blitz by a couple of centimeters.

Anyway, it was a tough game and looking back on it, I was going to have a pretty tough time with the Tau. Getupandgo played a very solid game and punished me every chance he could. It was a great game.

Results:

Well, we totaled up the points for all the games and in spite of botching up the last game I was still able to get a lock on Second place, closely edged out for first by getupandgo, which was well deserved.

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 Post subject: Re: 1st Annual Black Friday Mayhem, Houston, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:37 pm 
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Cool tourney report! :-)

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looked tense going into the deciding round there! looks like you had fun.


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Well, we just figured, "We're here, we're going to have fun regardless". So we did.

@E&C: I haven't decided if this is good or not, but the Krieg list is one of the most frustrating lists I've ever tried to build an army for. I don't know what it is, but I always seem to want to include one unit, only to drop it because of constraints.

I settled on the RegHQ and three infantry companies and then really struggled to find things that I wanted to play with that had some synergy. As it turned out, all the infantry I took really help me weather a lot of the Eldar attacks. I think the thing I have to get used to is realizing that the "bludgeon" part of the list eventually has few options to build on, even though there are lots of possibilities.

So, this isn't intended as a criticism, as I truly enjoy playing the list, but it certainly annoys me as I craft lists.

I know the list is pretty settled, but I'm still of the opinion that a 0-1 Artillery company as core is necessary, if only so that it frees up a support slot. But that's just me.

Anyway, the Eldar/Krieg game was one of the more enjoyable I've had in quite a while because of its intensity. So I look at the end result and say, "Yes" the list works...but it does cause me fits sometimes.

We're going to try a much bigger game in December, Krieg vs. Orks. It will be interesting to see how I feel after building a 7K-10K list.

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Honda_reloaded wrote:
Well, we just figured, "We're here, we're going to have fun regardless". So we did.

@E&C: I haven't decided if this is good or not, but the Krieg list is one of the most frustrating lists I've ever tried to build an army for. I don't know what it is, but I always seem to want to include one unit, only to drop it because of constraints.

I settled on the RegHQ and three infantry companies and then really struggled to find things that I wanted to play with that had some synergy. As it turned out, all the infantry I took really help me weather a lot of the Eldar attacks. I think the thing I have to get used to is realizing that the "bludgeon" part of the list eventually has few options to build on, even though there are lots of possibilities.

So, this isn't intended as a criticism, as I truly enjoy playing the list, but it certainly annoys me as I craft lists.

I know the list is pretty settled, but I'm still of the opinion that a 0-1 Artillery company as core is necessary, if only so that it frees up a support slot. But that's just me.

Anyway, the Eldar/Krieg game was one of the more enjoyable I've had in quite a while because of its intensity. So I look at the end result and say, "Yes" the list works...but it does cause me fits sometimes.

We're going to try a much bigger game in December, Krieg vs. Orks. It will be interesting to see how I feel after building a 7K-10K list.

Cheers,


Awesome report! It was a great time.

The Eldar/Krieg match-up really was a battle of seeing who would be able to minimize our weaknesses, and getting an infantry formation all the way over to my blitz was a worthy achievement.

I think that the Krieg list has strength in numbers, but I agree that additional support slots per core choice would be helpful in helping people compose varied armies.

In a larger game, they'll really shine. It will be extremely hard to move those huge infantry formations off of objectives.

We should pick a date for Dec.


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I'm glad you had enough room for everyone at the Tourney. ::)

It was a great report to read, especially the Krieg/Eldar one.

Oh and Congrats on 2nd Place Honda and 1st to Getupandgo. I was worried that you might ended up taking 3rd for awhile. ;)


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@E&C: I haven't decided if this is good or not, but the Krieg list is one of the most frustrating lists I've ever tried to build an army for...

...So, this isn't intended as a criticism, as I truly enjoy playing the list, but it certainly annoys me as I craft lists.

Honestly, I regard this as a "Very Good Thing". :-)

The reason being, when crafting the list, we wanted to achieve certain things, one of the most important being "It must be very unlike the Siegemasters list".

So one of the first things we did was settle on expensive Core formations, meaning this would be a "top heavy", low activation army. This would always create pressure on the support slots, and would always result in armies that featured infantry at their core (And indeed, those infantry would have to be used aggressively due to their stats, rather than defensively like Baran infantry).

This does have the side-effect of making army list construction more constrained than with many lists, but I don't regard that as a huge drawback, considering the large benefit (You can't build a defensive army that is as good as a Siegemasters army).

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1. Although I don't know anything about the Barans, I can say that I think you have captured an accurate feel for the Krieg in your list, at least as far as I am concerned.

I also agree that even though the Krieg are an infantry force by nature (at least until the armored list comes out hint, hint), they are supposed to be used aggressively. So no problems there either.

Where I seem to be struggling is in providing enough offensive firepower to enable the infantry to come to grips with the opponents. If you have a couple of lists that you like to use, I'd be interested in seeing them.

Thanx!

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Nice minis/terrain guys. If ever I'm in TX you guys and the O-man are top on my list to visit.

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Dave wrote:
If ever I'm in TX you guys and the O-man are top on my list to visit.


I'll probably be in Texas some time next year, but I'm not sure if I'll be making it down to the Houston area.

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I'll probably be in Texas some time next year, but I'm not sure if I'll be making it down to the Houston area.


Well, with enough notice and assuming you are within reasonable driving distance, things can be "arranged".

Seriously, if you were going to be in San Antonio or Austin over the weekend, that would be a no brainer, all things being equal.

That's only 2.5 - 3 hour drive, which translates to like, one stop at Starbucks there and back. Easy sneezy.

Seriously, you miss 100% of the games you don't schedule. <apologies to Wayne Gretsky>

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I'll probably be in Texas some time next year, but I'm not sure if I'll be making it down to the Houston area.


Well, with enough notice and assuming you are within reasonable driving distance, things can be "arranged".

Seriously, if you were going to be in San Antonio or Austin over the weekend, that would be a no brainer, all things being equal.

That's only 2.5 - 3 hour drive, which translates to like, one stop at Starbucks there and back. Easy sneezy.

Seriously, you miss 100% of the games you don't schedule. <apologies to Wayne Gretsky>



One stop at starbucks, but at least 2 or 3 chai lattes.

Is BoLScon doing an epic tournament next year?


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As one of the BoLS writers, and someone who is friends with the overall organizers, I can say that no, there won't be any official epic events at the con next year. My understanding is that they're primarily concerned with fixing some of last years' growing pains and making sure the numbers keep growing. As it is, there will be full events for 40k, WHFB, Warmachine, and Flames of War, not to mention probable narrative events and seminars, and there will barely be enough space for all of it. I'm betting this could be the last year at the current location.

I do wish I'd known of the tournament. I'm in Austin and I could've come. I never get to play enough epic for my liking.


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Awesome report, Honda. I was on the edge of my seat wondering if Krieg won initiative each turn ;)

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SteveW wrote:
As one of the BoLS writers, and someone who is friends with the overall organizers, I can say that no, there won't be any official epic events at the con next year. My understanding is that they're primarily concerned with fixing some of last years' growing pains and making sure the numbers keep growing. As it is, there will be full events for 40k, WHFB, Warmachine, and Flames of War, not to mention probable narrative events and seminars, and there will barely be enough space for all of it. I'm betting this could be the last year at the current location.

I do wish I'd known of the tournament. I'm in Austin and I could've come. I never get to play enough epic for my liking.


SteveW


Ah, that's too bad. We'll see how the adepticon epic tournament goes, but hopefully it will generate some interest for the folks in the states.

Also, we're planning on playing an epic mega-battle later on in the last half of december... FYI.


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