Yeah, GW pricing and availability are not a hill I wish to die on.

For me, I am going to patronize some of the vendors of good proxy figures to fill in my needs, as there are some excellent quality figures out there.

A prime example is my 'nid army, it will be a good chunk 3rd party and a good chunk 40k based conversions as well as about a case of "Green Stuff". If I find the need, I will resin custom parts also. Its about fun and size, right .

But for one more iteration, What is needed "MOST" IMO is conversion bitz plain and simple.

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Stuff I would like to see proxied, but is complicated by the fact that I have vowed to no longer purchase 28mm spehss mareenz:
Land Speeder Storm and Tempest variants
Thunderfire
Deathstorm drop pod central section (actually, I could probably make this by visual inspection)
Baal predator

I get this, and for a long time i also only had GW epic 6mm, but then I finally got some EW/DRM and once i saw the quality and price available there any need i felt to represent 40k armies just with GW minis/minis that looked just like GW stuff vanished Changed me from only wanted 'codex' stuff to warmly welcoming all space-lizards in their various forms for what they are

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Oh, I'm not against non-GW models or anything. In fact the only GW games I play any more are some of the Specialist Games - for example, the last game of 40k I had was well over 15 years ago, and I never got into WHFB or that crap excuse for a game that masquerades as a LOTR product. But if I want to play Eldar vs Space Lizards, or Orks vs Shiny Androids I can just play Future War Commander for instance (and I have EW and DRM models already to do so). However, if I play Epic, it is because I specifically want the look and feel of the 40k Universe. I imagine others probably feel the same, and if we as a community want to keep Epic alive, then we need to help out newcomers with gaps in the model range.

Anyway, I'm lucky in that I'm pretty close to having a reasonable quantity of GW Epic stuff for every army they made now, so I hope to be in the luxurious position of not being gouged ever again for the purchase of 'official' models very soon indeed. My experience of the fan-made stuff is that it is as good (or better) than the official stuff, so I will still be open to new models that are significant upgrades of old models or which are for models that were never made in 6mm. Likewise, I still look forward to cool conversions that cover existing models.

Some got something to say about my Space Lizzys ?

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Like Semaj says, I'm not an attorney. I have a job that deals with IP a lot (I negotiate contracts involving medical research) so I deal with attorneys regularly and have to be up on patent and copyright concepts.

You can't flat out copyright "style" but you also don't have to have a direct copy for something to be an infringement. If you're sufficiently close, you can be ruled in violation of IP. Copyright suits have been won against novels that have similarly worded passages. Some of the folks on here might recall the White Wolf/Nancy Collins lawsuit against the Underworld movie based on the inclusion of certain elements from Collins' story that was set in WW's fictional universe. This kind of situation is referred to as "derivative work." With probably thousands of officially copyrighted works and thousands more that are unofficially copyrighted, GW's universe has well-established styles and themes. Anything like a new faux-space-marine can pretty easily be argued to be a derivative work based on a wide range of similarities. Not only would that violate GW's IP but, depending on the jurisdiction, GW probably owns the derivative.

Obviously, there are lots of common sci-fi tropes that can be drawn from freely. However, it's the appearance of unique elements or unique combinations of elements that will trigger copyright problems. An 8 foot tall genetically modified supersoldier is not a problem. Power armor is not a problem. A military monastic order is not a problem. Put them together and you may have a problem.

Dark Frikkin Eldar units for fu&ks sake, please!!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally I'd like to see anything Eldar or Dark Eldar; lizard-riders, Phoenix Lords, Autarchs, Harlequin Venoms, 'new-style' Fire Prism turrets would all be potential targets. I'd also be keen to see re-workings of some of the older Eldar vehicles (Warp Hunter, Tempest, Knights) which although are easily available on ebay, are very different stylistically to the current range.

Would be good

Though since GW are meant to bringing out a new Dark Eldar codex and model range in W40k in November it would totally make sense to hold our horses till then, as I confidently expect the new designs to improve on the existing range.

I'm surprised by the level of desire for Evil Space Elves. I'd written them off as not being popular enough to be worth doing, but perhaps they could be reconsidered at some point.

Well, I think one of the driving factors for evil elf parts is that they are the only army that doesn't have anything available at all. People might be lucky enough to have bugs from long ago or alien communists from more recently, evil humans can mostly use the non-evil human parts, and dead-on proxies are available for the ancient robots, but there are no evil elves game pieces in the wild.

Really, though, I doubt there is a great deal of demand for evil elves, just the pressure due to the vacuum. Of course, the production volume of a fan-proxy is probably lower than the actual demand, so we have that going for us.

The being said, infantry for evil elves would be something that would be nice, not because it's difficult to convert good proxies, but because it's a pain to convert so many and do it in a consistent manner. The same is true of any infantry model that must be proxied.

its also probable that a portion of the reduced interest in the list is due to the lack of available figures with which to use them, and if figures showed up, more people would play.

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I've heard similar arguments WRT 40k Evil Elves, and didn't believe them there, either. Evil Elves will always be a nitche army, enough to support a set of proxies, certainly, but the lack of proxies at this point is a result of low interest, not the other way around. Of course more people would play with good proxies available, but not that many more. IMO, of course.

Except for some modernised Space Elf Hover Tanks, there is very little not covered by the community and alternative suppliers I would personally like. I think the factions that need the most attention at this point are Spiky Dudes, Bugs, Space Communists, and Evil Elves, in that order. Cyber Troops need some holes filled, but as a whole are well represented/easily proxied.

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well i know 3 people locally who would probably or definitely play Evil Elves if/when new models where available* the same is probably true for epic. they're never going to be as popular as marines, orks, or imperial guard, but their status as a niche army and their lack of support is a chicken and egg arguement, and like the chicken and egg arguement, the answer is that both evolved concurrently with each other.

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Another litle fun project. I think someone already mentioned it, but after looking at this pic from Onyx blog I sort of got inspired: Upgrade kits for the old Plastic falcons would be pretty cool. A simple kit consisting of two fins added both sides of the hull, and maybe a turret upgrade that can be added if you file down the top rear part of the vehicle. Upgrades for some of the other old eldar models might also be interesting: A new turret for the steam iron Wave Serpent, Fins and turret upgrade for the Tempest, turrets for the nightspinner/firestorm/deathstalker prism cannon hull etc.

http://onyxworkshop.files.wordpress.com ... /wwe53.jpg

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