Quote: (Steve54 @ Feb. 13 2010, 06:45 )
You already know my views on this frogbear but I had one more comment based on your other thread in relation to this.
You have stated that you want the list to be a rounded list capable of performing in a variety of roles - drop, mechanised etc. IMO the current blood rage rule works against this. At the moment, with any list, you activate the spaceship and drop pod the units than have to retain to use them - with Blood rage this is now automatic 0 no risk at all. This also increases the power of terminators as again the risk is removed of BMs.
Making a list at the moment would primarily be judging what proportion of drop pods/teleporters to take.
I just don't see it.
With the SpaceShip/Drop-pod thing, the BloodRage is worse than the +1 to Charge. With +1 to Engage, only Overwatch (for a BM) forces a slim chance to fail on the retain.
With the Terminator concern, as it stands, you teleport in two Terminator Formations.
Neither Formation gains BM's.
+1 on Engage = Both automatically Engage, no penalties.
BM on Fail = Both automatically Engage, second formation has BM's going into combat.
One Formation has BM's.
+1 on Engage = Both automatically Engage (BM one first), One Formation has 1 BM.
BM on Fail = Both automatically Engage (BM one second), One Formation has 2 BM's.
Both Formations have BM's.
+1 on Engage = One Auto Engages with BM's, other fails on a 1.
BM on Fail = Both automatically Engage, both have BM's going into combat.
So in only the last situation is it really a difference. Counter this with the inability to Regroup on a Hold across the entire army, and their ability to remain effective after the initial close combat strike is hindered, and the auxillary shooting is fairly significantly weakened.
Morgan Vening
