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Are CC specialists generally overpriced?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:30 am 
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Quote: (Jeridian @ Dec. 07 2009, 23:23 )

Your saying that a CC Troop should try to enter h2h with a defending FF Troop? I can't fault that if your are.

However my point is it is harder, and more detrimental for their health, for any formation to move into h2h with a defending formation than to simply move within 15cm of at least 1 enemy unit.

If you do get a CC Troop into h2h, bravo, they should do well against a FF Troop. It's just easier and safer (because less enemy can hit back) to get a FF troop into firefight range, than a CC troop into h2h.

In that particular post, I wasn't actually suggesting that a close combat formation/unit should try to enter b/c with a defending FF formation, although I obviously agree with you.  My Striking Scorpions do not want to be involved in FF with Space Marine Devastators after all  :( .

What I'm saying though is that if a unit which has superior b/c abilities compared to FF is facing a unit which has dangerous b/c abilities, it is still preferable to get into b/c in my view, in order to have the greatest possible change to cause casualties.  I agree with you it's more risky, but some units, especially specialists, such as Eldar Striking Scorpions, don't really have much of an option.

Of course if you support them with units in the same formation with a good FF value, then it helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:17 pm 
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In general terms I think it comes down to distribution.  FF troops are more predictable and have a narrower distribution of outcomes whereas CC troops have a wider distribution.  Greater risk = potential greater reward.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:39 pm 
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to answer the original question, no
i recently played a game w/ orcs and my only AV on the board was behind a hill. my opponent (much to his embarrassment) had to fire his shadow sword (or whatever the one is w/ the TK weapon) at my infantry. does this mean all TK weapons are overpriced? certainly not.
a TK weapon can still shoot a LV, a deathstrike still has the bolter shot, etc. it's just that CC oriented units have nothing to fall back on if they are not in B2B contact.


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