Like the C'tan, of which there are only two in existence?

Or the Avatars of Khaine, of which there are only a couple of dozen?

There are many more Emperor class Titans than either of the above, surely, so rarity doesn't cut it as an argument in this case I think.

Balance and Representational issues are the two important factors I think?


As it is the "Imperator" in the AMTL list isn't Imperator at all! REAL Imperator wouldn't be so wimpy. It would be LOT more powerful and to hell whether it's good for tournament scenario. If it isn't it's just one more indicator it shouldn't be included in tournament scenario anyway.

If you want to have beefed up warlord fine but atleast don't try to pretend it's Imperator because it most certainly isn't. It's some new titan(as if we need new titans) between warlord and Imperator.

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So I can prevent BTS, defend the flag and They shall not pass (plus potentially make take and hold harder to do if an objective is carelessly set up within 30cm of half way line) or BTS and blitz (by simply not moving).

Yes almost 50% of the army is sunk into it, but I should be slagging enemy formations with it in each salvo and it has that big break to the possible objectives.

Certainly the Great Gargant which is the next best thing is a sod to remove unless you have a warlock or similar specialist.

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I don't have a problem with the Imperators stats as they stand. While I think it would be cool to have a titan that could shoot at multiple targets it's not a deal breaker or really even a huge factor, though given the amount of firepower these critters have, it does seem a tad overkill on whatever target you choose.

However, if I could change one thing, I'd adjust the leg bastions a bit to include the infantry units for the leg bastions in the cost of the titan instead of just treating them as corvus assault pods. seems odd that they have the bastions but don't come equipped with troops given the background.

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i played 2 games with the imperator titan, and in neither cases has it broken the game. the first time was against moscovian's eldar, in the first round i opened up on his warlock titan and managed to knock off 2 DC and down his holofield on a critical hit. in the second round i wiped some falcons off the board. the game was heavily in my favor by the end of the second round so i think we called it there.

the second game was against bill's dark eldar at gamesday 2009. first round i crippled his tormentor titan with the imperator, but it was still alive, it took a second round of fire before i finished it off.

the relatively short range of both the main guns makes it a lil iffy as far as unloading the full potential of the titan.

ill always be a person for letting the titan shoot at different targets. i think each main gun and then the hull as one unit should all be able to affect different targets, but as you see above, even with the full strngth to bear, the imperator couldnt finish off the DE titan in one go.

i just assebled a warmonger titan, and i would like to see something done with the missles, it has 8 but games of epic only last 3 rounds, seems kinda odd. maybe make the gun more of a static piece instead of a choice of rockets, i dunno, ill waiti til i get it on the table before i make any real judgements, im already an ant amongst giants here.

Me too.

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a) no wonder it underperformed since it's so wimpy compared to what it should be
b) tournament scenarios last 3-4 turns. Tournament scenarios aren't only scenarios around however. Warmonger has 8 missiles so unless you want to break the background and have it firing 2 missiles per turn you have ammo for 8 turns. Besides wouldn't the AM be "bit" more thoughtful about having enough ammunition that it doesn't need reloading after minor skirmish...Would be pretty inefficient weapon system if it needs reloading after every minor skirmish. Can't see those titans being quick to reload and definetely not in middle of battle.

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Just for fun, would anyone be willing to give the imperator a shot with it's plasma annihilator changed to tk(d6)?

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Four shots that hit on twos doing D6 damage each... on average that will destroy a fully shielded Warlord Titan, without even needing other weapon systems to strip shields first.

A tad too good perhaps!

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Four shots that hit on twos doing D6 damage each... on average that will destroy a fully shielded Warlord Titan, without even needing other weapon systems to strip shields first.

A tad too good perhaps!

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Because it has 10BP.

I'm much more serious about letting the titan include the infantry for the leg bastions as part of the imperators formation.

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That will make the Imperator practically unbreakable.

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That will make the Imperator practically unbreakable.

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No different than starting a demicentury in front of the imperator and picking them up on your first move, just instead the titan actually starts with embarked.

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OTOH, if you think infantry should be a mandatory purchase for every Imperator, then that's a separate issue.

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