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- About Daemons, I already gave my point of view on the topic. Note that if I don't like the "summon in mortal formations", it's mainly because it needs a lot of special rules and is quite different from the core rules (all units in a formation are always placed in the same time on the table, after all - there are no such things as a part is placed and the other part keeping appearing and disappearing all the time). It creates some annoying troubles, like what about daemon pool and victory points.
Of course, meatshields are great for those who use it. But for fluff, I think it's quite against the true nature of daemons ; they're assault troops. Sure, Chaos Space Marines would certainly use them in suicidal assaults, but Daemons aren't really inclined to take the hits for them. It's not in their nature, they're Daemons ! You know, the cruel type who like to tear your heart apart...and that's the same for their side as well if you're not careful.
But well, that's my point of view about them and the fluff. That's why I find the current summoning system so against Daemon nature.
- About the two tiered list, I'm not sure it's really the solution. Even if they're Chaos Space Marines, they're still Space Marines and thus should keep a great flexibility. The fact there is some formations much better than the others should not be resolved by a two tiered list ; I would rather fix the "too good" ones, making either more expensive or modifying their profile, or even move them to heavy support (up to third of the army points, talking about war engines here).
On the other side, I'm for a removal of the 0-x limitations. That would remove as well the "necessity" of making them cheaper than they should be.
- About the Brass Scorpion, Plaquereaper and Baneblade ; Well, Black Legion has enough war engines like this and I think it's too late to remove the Death Wheel and Decimator without making players who scratchbuild them shouting loud. So I will finally keep these two and get happy with just that. Brass Scorpions moving for Lost and Damned isn't really necessary, for that list has already a huge choice of daemon engines. No need to add another scratchbuild model, there's already enough work like that.
- About the titans...Even if a Ravager is a "cooler" name instead of Chaos Reaver, the fact is the first one is a Khorne marked titan. All Black Legion titans are Khorne marked, and that's a bit weird for a "Undivided Chaos" like Renegade Legion.
Banelords, Ravagers and Ferals would be better in a Khorne marked army list, like World Eaters. Fluff is more important than coolness, to me. Even if "generic Chaos Titans" are bland, I would rather use them for the Black Legion - because that would represent more their "generic" nature.
- About factions, I'm for a removal of them. More simple that way and less special rules for the list. If only "generic" daemons can be used, would be better as well for Black Legion. That's how Black Legion work now in W40k after all, even if you don't like it - and to be honest, it's again more simple that way while not as "anti-fluff" as it feels...After all, the Warp is very huge.
Cherry on top, generic daemons allow you to use any model for the daemons, which is much simpler to gather all the units you need to make, say, a Daemon formation. 
- About the Chaos characters. To be honest, it's a bit annoying to be forced to take one for each infantry formation. Don't get me wrong, the "free character" is a great feat, but still I would better like to have the choice not to take one for my Chaos Space Marines, even if I have to pay a greater cost. 250 points for eight Chaos Space Marines looks fair to me, with Chaos Character at 50 points and Supreme Commander for +50 points. Maybe harsh, but would be more in the line to me.
I also like the idea of Cult Marines and Havocs as upgrades for Chaos Space Marines units rather than additionnal units. Eight marines units, that's already huge for Space Marines. Having the possibility of an (overpriced) crowd of 16 marines is surely expensive, but a bit weird...I would rather see them using smaller formations to attack. They're still marines, after all, not Chaos cultists.
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