Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 5
  [ 69 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Malcador
redram
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:23 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 99
Location: Germany
Despite there are no rules for it I started a new project, the Malcador heavy battletank:















Any ideas for rules?

_________________
Damn the torpedoes!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:28 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Looking great already!


I came up with some quick test stats for the Malcador in a Vraksian Traitors armylist: http://elf.planetquake.gamespy.com/Epic/Vraks1.01.pdf

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
J0k3r
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:40 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 11:18 pm
Posts: 876
Location: Edinburgh, UK
VEry very nice redram!

As for rules- my take on this would be that his is an infantry tank, ie more heavily armoured and also much slower than a russ.  An inf tank should move around as fast as Inf can walk so 15cm move, poss 20 cm if thats too slow.

Weapons self explanatory- 6 Heavy bolters and a demolisher (poss Fixed Forwards), FF 3+ to represent oodles of HB.  Poss even 2+.

Armour is where it gets difficult.  A russ has 4+ Reinf, a Macharius 4+ Reinf and DC2.  THis should lie between the two in my mind.  Clearly having DC2 is not appropriate given the size of this.  Would 4+ Reinf plus TRA be enough?  Or how about breaking precedent and going to 3+ TRA?

Personally I would go for 3+ RA plus TRA so, my pass at the rules:

----

Malcador 15cm Move  Armour 3+ CC 6+, FF 3+

6 x Heavy Bolter 30cm AP 5+
Demolisher  30cm AP3+/AT4+ IC

Notes- TRA and RA

Oh, and for the Male version the secondary weapons look variable between Lascannon and ?Heavy Stubber?  Gone here for a lascannon heavy variant:

Malcador 15cm Move  Armour 3+ CC 6+, FF 5+

Battle Cannon 75cm AP4+/AT4+
3 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+

Notes- TRA and RA




_________________
"Do not offend the Chair Leg of Truth; it is wise and terrible."
-Spider Jerusalem
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
redram
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:13 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 99
Location: Germany
Perfect!
So we just need the pointvalue... :;):

_________________
Damn the torpedoes!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Moscovian
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:15 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:32 pm
Posts: 6414
Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania USA
3+ RA is REALLY powerful.  Think about a holofield save, then think about getting it twice in a row on a single AV.

Stats wise that is only about an 11% chance of a kill (more than twice as good as a LR).

_________________
author of Syncing Forward and other stories...

It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I've got my Milkbone underwear on.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:22 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Joker:

The Malcador tank does have DC-2 in 40k, the same as a Macharius. It's armour value is somewhat less though IIRC.

It also has 7x Heavy Bolters.

IIRC TRA is not appropriate.

I went with 350pts for three in my proposed stats, but they've never been tested.

*Imagines 3x Malcador tanks sustaining fire against an infantry formation*




_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
stugmeister
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:42 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:26 pm
Posts: 874
Nice job mate - that looks so cool!

I really love the Malcador.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
redram
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:11 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 99
Location: Germany
I added some details to the track units


_________________
Damn the torpedoes!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Warmaster Nice
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:19 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:15 pm
Posts: 7948
Location: Denmark
Superb :cool: Any chance of doing a battle cannon version at some point?

_________________
Sofa General

Nobody expects the Inquisition!!!
http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
redram
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:18 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 99
Location: Germany

(Warmaster Nice @ Aug. 12 2007,15:19)
QUOTE
Superb :cool: Any chance of doing a battle cannon version at some point?

The battle cannon version is part of the plan  :;):
There will be 5 different molds:
1. hull
2. track left
3. track right
4. casemate for the heavy bolter version
5. casemate for the battle cannon version




_________________
Damn the torpedoes!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
hotwire
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:23 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:42 pm
Posts: 896
Location: Rome or London..depends on my mood
where do we get our hands on your stuff? Or do you not sell?

_________________
We are the Emperor's Sword! We are impenetrable! Pizza man? Sure come through. *a loud kamikaze explosion is heard*
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:41 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Note that the male (Battle cannon) version of the Malcador has Lascannons in the sponsons instead of Heavy Bolters.

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
vanvlak
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:45 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:52 am
Posts: 10348
Location: Malta
Redram, I'm curious - how long did it take you to complete the steps shown in the first set of photographs?

_________________
Back from oblivion (again)?
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
firestorm40k
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:28 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:00 pm
Posts: 2277
Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Holy... :O :O :O  You make me feel spectacularly un-skilled, Redram - this looks amazing already! :cool: :)
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
redram
 Post subject: Malcador
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:33 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 99
Location: Germany

(vanvlak @ Aug. 12 2007,17:45)
QUOTE
how long did it take you to complete the steps shown in the first set of photographs?

Something about 12 hours...

The detailing of the tracks and the casemate took another 3-4 hours, to this status:






_________________
Damn the torpedoes!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 5
  [ 69 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 20 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net