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Tactica	Post subject: Tyranid v6.2 List is here Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:46 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am Posts: 2241	Quote (Hena @ 03 Feb. 2006 (13:34)) I've always counted the BTS on individual stands/units. So one dominatrix, 0ne stand of tyranid warriors and one hite tyrant and so on. Synapse Group designation comes after the synapse selections (eg one entry in the point value table) are possibly combined in the beginning of the game. Hena, Very intersting... Ironically though, the way the list has it presently 1) ARMY LIST 2) SYNAPSE CREATURE - TW Synapse Group (sub category) The SYNAPSE CREATURE  heading under ARMY LIST makes the entire TW Synapse Group a single Synapse Creature for the purposes of classification in the list. (rather intentional or not) On the other hand, T 1.72 does not really use proper "Synapse Creatue". Instead, it uses an undefined all lower case version of the phrase. It it was a proper phrase, then the intention would be clear - TW Group is a single Synapse Creature. However, the lower case presentation is the cause for the confustion... ...not to mention we its easy for a reader to use singular stand and unit synonomously with 'creature' even though Tyranid warrior stands are made up of multiple creatures. Ergo my previous post and recomendation for clarification. So now that you interpret it differently than our group did -  I don't know what the intention is and I'm sure it needs clarification!   I can tell you this though - interpretation of this rule has a significant impact one way or the other! Scenerio If I take 4 TW Synapse Groups (12 stands)... 1) Does my opponent have to kill any 6 TW units out of the four groups to achieve BTS? (stand/unit = T 1.72 Synapse Creature) 2)Or, does my opponent have to kill two full Synapes Groups of 3 Tyranid Warrior stands/units to achieve BTS? Note: if he killed 8 models total - 2 out of each formation, it wouldn't be enough for BTS as 1 model from each group remained in this mode... (Synapse Group = T 1.72 Synapse Creature) Good discussion Hena, Cheers, _________________ Rob
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Jaldon

Post subject: Tyranid v6.2 List is here Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:36 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:38 am Posts: 720 Location: Utah, pick a Pacific Island the other half of the year.

Now that I have on file v6.2 I am posting changes as we speak. To represent this trait the Break Their Spirit goal is based upon the number of synapse creature units[/I] still on table in the Tyranid army. If the number of synapse creature[B]units left on the table is equal to, or less then, the number of synapse creature units in the dead tray off table then the opponent has achieved the Break Their Spirit goal. It is based upon the number of units, straight line. The above is the reworded version. I just realized... the biovore lost his indirect fire capability, is this correct? Yes keep AA on the titans, maybe 6+ if you want, but don't delete it (do you have any idea how difficult is to defend against 9 fighters?)

Yes I do, and even more then 9xFighters. But the Nids should have problems with aircraft IMHO having AA all over the place makes it too easy to BM the aircraft to death and send them packing for an half a battle without KIA'ing one of them.

Zoanthropes are cheap at 35pts, and easily fit into a players budget, and you can spwan them back.

Ok proposed stats put up have been filed for consideration, and I have posted a further thread "The Norn Queen Reports" based upon some of the input thus far. I will try to get a 'fixed' v6.2 up ASAP, this time trying to fix my numerous typos. Like 75pts for Haruspex Should be 50pts doh!

Thanks all hope to soon have it better written.

Go See "The Norn Queen's Report" I am planning on doing these perodically.

Jaldon