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 Post subject: Tyranids
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:26 pm 
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Hi Guys,

I am looking at starting my 2nd army for EA and with some nice new tyranid proxies soon to be available it appears that tyranids are calling out to me.

They will hopefully offer me a nice new refreshing style of play, my other force in vanaheim and they are predominately a shooting force.

Does this look like a good list for Epic UK Nids?

Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Tyranids (110929)
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BIG ASSAULT SWARM [410]
4 Tyranid Warrior, 10 Termagant, 6 Hormaguant, 3 Gargoyles

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [240]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 5 Termagant, 3 Hormaguant, 2 Gargoyles

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [240]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 5 Termagant, 3 Hormaguant, 2 Gargoyles

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [240]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 5 Termagant, 3 Hormaguant, 2 Gargoyles

BRUTE SWARM [225]
1 Hive Tyrant, 3 Carnifex

BRUTE SWARM [225]
1 Hive Tyrant, 3 Carnifex

GENESTEALER SWARM [175]
7 Genestealer

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

LICTOR SWARM [200]
4 Lictor

LICTOR SWARM [200]
4 Lictor

SUBTERRANEAN SWARM [280]
1 Trygon and 3 Raveners

HARASSMENT SWARN [265]
1 Harridan and 6 Gargoyles


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 Post subject: Re: Tyranids
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:45 pm 
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My experience of EuK nids:

Drop down to 1 or 2 gargoyles per swarm if i were you; they'll not do much damage to planes but are worth the blast marker effect.

That many lictors and genestealers leaves a large portion of your army unable to FF; the same rings true of the carnifexes; invest in some malefactors

drop the 2 extra gargoyles on the harridan.

drop the extra genestealer.

Get another harridan!

Bear in mind that nids are an activation army.

I'd go for (trying to take into account the models the above list suggests you have...)

SUBTERRANEAN SWARM [250]
1 Trygon and 2 Raveners
SUBTERRANEAN SWARM [250]
1 Trygon and 2 Raveners
HARASSMENT SWARN [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles
HARASSMENT SWARN [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles
NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [220]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant, Gargoyles
NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [220]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant, Gargoyles
NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [220]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant, Gargoyles
NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [220]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant, Gargoyles
NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant
BRUTE SWARM [225]
1 Hive Tyrant, 3 Carnifex
BRUTE SWARM [225]
1 Hive Tyrant, 3 Carnifex
GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer
GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer
NEST SWARM [210]
4 Termagant, Biovore

It's 10pts shy, a nest swarm is easy to make out of GW tyranid scenery and I threw the biovore in there to allow it to do something useful (lay blast markers).
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 Post subject: Re: Tyranids
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:43 pm 
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Thanks for your input Ryan.

Isnt the biovore at risk of being sniped out by AT fire being the only non WE vehicle?

I noticed that there is no singular bts is this not going to cause an issue? Particularly as both are likely to teleport near to danger.

I actually have no models ATM so have no attachment to any formations. Are the brute formations usefull or a waste? I know they have limited damage output and need to get to cc.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyranids
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:23 am 
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In a nest swarm, you have either a DC3 war engine in the hive node for your biovores to hide behind and to take AT shots on it's 4+ RA and 4 Termagants to take the AP fire on and not take blast markers, make sure they're all in or out of cover though, otherwise your biovores could be sniped.

If you don't want to bother with nest swarms, you could just overload on infantry like I do, with the added benefit of this being hella effective. Thusly:

BIG ASSAULT SWARM [390]
4 Tyranid Warrior, 16 Termagant, 2 Gargoyles

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 8 Termagant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 2 Termagant, 6 Hormaguant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 2 Termagant, 6 Hormaguant

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

HARASSMENT SWARN [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles

HARASSMENT SWARN [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles

SUBTERRANEAN SWARM [310]
1 Trygon and 2 Raveners, 2 Ravener

LICTOR SWARM [200]
4 Lictor


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