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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud! |
Evening all, I'm putting together a new Ork list using all my Red models :-), it must contain battlewagons, A brace of Supa Stompa's and a landa: these things help me get things painted! The idea is to make this my regular 3k list for a while rather than floating around too much. Other units I'm happy to get painted for it's use: dreads/killa kans/additional flakwagons/additional big gunz. Here's what I've been using so far: Ghazgkhull Thraka's War Horde (Epic UK v100909) ================================================== WARBAND [250] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Boyz, 2 Grotz WARBAND [400] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Boyz, Grotz, 4 Battlewagon, Flakwagon WARBAND (BIG) [350] 4 Nobz, 12 Boyz, 4 Grotz, Warlord STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Commandos STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Stormboyz BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [475] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [500] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa, Killa Kan MEKBOY GUNMOB [125] 5 Big Gunz LANDA [200] |
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| Author: | Tiny-Tim [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
You've dropped the fortresses, was hoping to see them again this year. |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
However, I try keeping the two 'speed elements' working together: the slower stompamobs backed up by and protecting the warbosses big warband and supported by kommando's, the blitz brigades, mech mob and stormboyz zipping around together. Big Gunz mob takes the Blitz Landa mob threatens to drop on objectives/important formations (last game they beat a gargant in assualt!) This means the BTS Stompamob have no flak! So... Ghazgkhull Thraka's War Horde (Epic UK v100909) ================================================== WARBAND [250] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Boyz, 2 Grotz WARBAND [365] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Boyz, Grotz, 4 Battlewagon WARBAND (BIG) [350] 4 Nobz, 12 Boyz, 4 Grotz, Warlord STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Stormboyz BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [475] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [510] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa, Flakwagon MEKBOY GUNMOB [125] 5 Big Gunz MEKBOY GUNMOB [175] 5 Big Gunz, Oddboy LANDA [200] The Mechmob loses it's flak but I've still got the blitz brigades, the BTS is now protected from aircraft attacks and with the spare points I droppped a formation of (VERY!) useful scouts (who i usually use as counter attackers and in desperate times as meat shields) to afford an Oddboy upgraded Gunmob: perhaps making the blitz objective harder to take or garrisoning further forward on OW as a threat from the start... I feel the army loses a bit of mobility with this though...and I really liked the flak on the mek mob: more the better! |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Hi Tim! Well...the fortresses are Black so I'll take them in another Ork list at some point! I've loved the idea of dual supa stompa's for ages! I might PM you a list with the fortresses in! They're all the rage right now! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LAST LIST! Ghazgkhull Thraka's War Horde (Epic UK v100909) ================================================== WARBAND [235] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Dreadnought WARBAND [400] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Boyz, Grotz, 4 Battlewagon, Flakwagon WARBAND (BIG) [350] 4 Nobz, 12 Boyz, 4 Grotz, Warlord STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Stormboyz STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Commandos BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [475] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [510] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa, Flakwagon MEKBOY GUNMOB [125] 5 Big Gunz LANDA [200] Bring back the scouts, Bring back the mechmobs flakwagon (but they lose the extra boy and grot, who I purchased as I didn't want to lost the transport capacity oppurtunity....and throw a dreadnouhgt into the landamob instead hoping it'll take some hits and slay more than 2 extra grots and 2 boyz could to make up the combat res... So...oh worldly players: who thinks what? |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Actually...for TIM's sake here's the only list I can build that only includes Black Orks! Uses Epic UK's Shield Generators on the Battleforts WARBAND [365] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Battlefortress, Oddboy WARBAND [365] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Battlefortress, Oddboy BLITZ BRIGADE [200] 2 Gunwagon, 2 Flakwagon, Oddboy BLITZ BRIGADE [200] Oddboy, 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon KULT OF SPEED [200] 8 Warbike KULT OF SPEED (BIG) [350] 8 Buggy, 8 Skorcha WARBAND [320] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kan, 2 Nobz GREAT GARGANT [850] FIGHTA SQUADRON [150] 3 Fighta Bomba EDIT: Should probably buy more Skorcha's for that build! |
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| Author: | wargame_insomniac [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Hi I thought you said list must include Supa Stompas and Landa? I have been advised against sticking Warband in Gunfortresses/Battlefortresses- I was told that too easy to take out transport with one critical hit. How many Skorcha's do you need? Cheers James |
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| Author: | Steve54 [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Fortresses seem to work if you go all in with them ie everybody is in them so there are 12+ to deal with |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Not a fan of the commando formation. Used it 20ish times, almost always wished I had a stormboy formation instead. |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Not even for the blast marker laying ability? I figured that they'd be following the Big Mob around so using them to prep the target of an assualt might be a better idea...using the supa stompa formations to go for the targets that need shooting. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
If I want to lay bm's there's better ways to spend 150pts to do that IMO. |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Exampley pous seevoo play? ;-)! Gunz and FB's are the only two other formations that fit into that bracket...I don't have any red planes! Gunz aren't quick enough to keep up... and don't have the benefits of being scouts.... |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Blitz Brigades are 150pts. All 3 options are faster (30-35cm), and have better guns & even ff hit potential. Even numbers doesn't really swing it for the commandos due to their terrible armour. I'm experimenting with different formation compositions to make commandos work in a couple of other lists because I want to use my lovely commando models in games without actively hurting my army. |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Hmm...might experiment with 4 Deth Koptas...I've got the mini's to paint up...and this is a miniature painting mission! |
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| Author: | Reedar [ Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
Hey MoK, Here's my tuppence worth, few slight tweaks below... Incompertus, 2995 POINTS Ghazgkhull Thraka's War Horde (Epic UK v100909) ================================================== WARBAND [235] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Dreadnought WARBAND [375] 2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 3 Battlewagon, 2 Flakwagon WARBAND (BIG) [350] 4 Nobz, 12 Boyz, 4 Grotz STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150] 6 Stormboyz BLITZ BRIGADE [200] Oddboy, 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon BLITZ BRIGADE [200] Oddboy, 2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [475] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [510] 3 Stompa, Supa Stompa, Flakwagon LANDA [200] BLITZ BRIGADE [150] 4 Flakwagon BLITZ BRIGADE [150] 4 Deth Kopta =======================================
Personally I've have a extra unit of Nobz in the landa in preference to the Dread, but that ones neither here nor there. Like I said, just my thoughts.... Cheers Reedar |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 3k Tourney/Regular Ork List: help needed chewing the cud |
That's a novel approach Daz! I might drop this combo on Ben Edgar next week or so and see what happens... What about changing the two tiny Gun/FlakWagon Blitzes into a Big one so as to afford another Zzap Gun Oddboy in the Flak Blitz Brigade? 3 Flak, 1 Zzap, hanging around on the back near the blitz. Loses an activation, might lose versatility of where to lay BM and shoot...means only 3 not 4 fast activations though (excluding the Kopta's and Flak Brigade) |
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