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Author:  enri [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
How's this look for a first 3k EC list?... any tips / suggestions?

Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Emperors Children (Epic UK v090710)
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DAEMON POOL [140]
7 Lesser Daemon

EMPERORS CHILDREN RETINUE [330]
6 Noise Marines, Daemonic Pact, Sorcerer Lord, 6 Dreadclaw Drop Pod

EMPERORS CHILDREN RETINUE [330]
6 Noise Marines, Daemonic Pact, Sorcerer Lord, 6 Dreadclaw Drop Pod

DAEMONIC KNIGHTS [275]
4 Daemon Knights

DAEMONIC KNIGHTS [275]
4 Daemon Knights

TERMINATORS [475]
4 Terminators, Daemon Prince, Daemonic Pact

CHAOS SPACE MARINES [275]
6 Chaos Marines, 3 Rhinos, Daemonic Pact

HELLBLADE FLIGHT [200]
3 Fighters

QUESTOR TITAN [275]

QUESTOR TITAN [275]

DEVASTATION CLASS CRUISER [150]
Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Interesting list. Lots of firepower from the Knights and Questors. The biggest worry would be coming up against a force with a SR5 that can push your drop back a turn. I have found the terminators hard to use as a single formation and have started taking two formations for a harder hit.
Author:  Mephiston [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Tried dropping them and to be honest I think the retinues work better in rhinos.
Author:  enri [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
I know they'd have more maneuverability with the rhinos, I'm just hesitant to have them run the gauntlet from the very first turn... with your opponent able to read where you're coming from, the spaceship option just looked like a nice way of getting to where they needed to be whilst keeping your opponent on his toes :) (plus it's 150 points I wouldn't strictly speaking need to paint up!!)

Re: firepower, I thought 2 units of daemonic engines might have been a bit overkill but... eh... I like the OOP models... not sure my wallet does though :/

(the fluff purist in me also wants to take multiples of 6 for the lesser daemons but points wouldn't allow for 12 and I don't want as few as 6!)
Author:  Curis [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Huzzah!

What're you thinking of using model-wise for Daemon Knights and Quaestors?
Author:  enri [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Beyond being a fluff puritan, my purist ways stretch to models too so I'll be looking to use... OOP daemon knights and OOP questors... :D My wallet cringes at the thought but I'm making this a long project rather than a "crap, need to have this lot painted before X" project so it's something to work at over a longer period of time :D

I'd already picked up 4 daemon engines courtesy of ebay and www.wargamingtrader.com a while back, prior to starting the new marine army for FSA, which put this project briefly on hold
Author:  Mephiston [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
My thoughts for titans have always been cryx warmachine jacks....but the spidery ones are probably too big for DC3 so would have to be a Reaver sized option. The little ones just look a bit too solid for slaanesh.
Author:  Steve54 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Revenants are the obvious option, but probably just as expensive as oop slaaneshi stuff
Author:  dptdexys [ Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Regarding the list, my personal choice would be to only have 1 formation in drop pods.

Unless your planning on doing combined assaults with the 2 Retinues or dropping 1 in a safe area and 1 in an agressive area, then against any decent player the formation that doesn't get to retain will be taken out before it gets to activate.

Play the list in a few games first, get a feel of how it will work in games or if there's anything that you may want to change.
With the cost of these OOP minis you don't want to spend lots of cash and months finding then painting them to find they don't suit how you want to play the army.

I'm sure you or a local opponent has stuff that can be used as proxies just for a couple of games.
Mainly to get a feel of how the list works and performs and then you can make adjustments (if needed) to your list.
Author:  enri [ Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 3k Emperor's Children Epic UK list
Yea guess I can proxy the army beforehand using my SM force, will give that a shot before I commit to anything with the OOP stuff I've got so far!
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