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2000 point intro game w/ marines
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Author:  enri [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  2000 point intro game w/ marines
Hi all, Mephiston here has been kind enough to offer an intro game to E:A at the local club this coming Monday, based on 2k points with no flyers / warmachines.. I was wondering if anyone could offer any comments on the following list, from less of a 'competitive' standpoint and more from a 'enough flavour to try everything out' direction if that makes sense.

I wanted to avoid adding too much (if anything at all) to the detachments I've taken to avoid confusing matters, and also because most of the upgrades I'd want to take aren't in my collection yet (plus some things seem a bit redundant without using flyers, like hunters etc.)

So far I've got this:

Wibble, 1875 POINTS
Codex Astartes (Epic UK v010409)
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TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 350
6 Tacticals, Transport
+Captain

TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 350
6 Tacticals, Transport
+Librarian

ASSAULT DETACHMENT - 225
4 Assault Units
+Chaplain

DEVASTATOR DETACHMENT - 250
4 Devastators, Transport

TERMINATOR DETACHMENT - 400
4 Terminators
+Chaplain

WHIRLWINDS - 300
4 Whirlwinds

The only thing I can think of doing to get it closer to 2k is to drop the chaplain from the terminators and throw two land raiders into the devastator detachment. Or to find some suitable stand ins for dreadnoughts and add them to the devastators. Any thoughts? Remember, my aim is to have a good mix of different troop types*, not trying to put together a 'decent' army :)

* I realise I'm missing some of the faster units like landspeeders / bikes etc. but these are units I don't have available to me at the mo!
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Quote:
TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 350
6 Tacticals, Transport
+Captain

I'd upgrade the Captain to being a Supreme Commander


Quote:
TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 350
6 Tacticals, Transport
+Librarian

ASSAULT DETACHMENT - 225
4 Assault Units
+Chaplain

DEVASTATOR DETACHMENT - 250
4 Devastators, Transport


Personally I'd put the Librarian with the Devastators instead of the Tacticals.

Quote:
TERMINATOR DETACHMENT - 400
4 Terminators
+Chaplain

WHIRLWINDS - 300
4 Whirlwinds


Looks fine.


Other modifications I'd suggest to reach the full 2000pts would be to add a Razorback to the (Now) Supreme Commander's Tactical Formation (Taking it to 425pts), and a Land Raider to the Devastator formation.

At that point I'd say you'd have a solid 2000pt starting force.
Author:  Mephiston [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Enri, if you want to go a little over 2,000 I won't mind so feel free to stick in one more formation if you have it. Let me know the points you hit and I'll match it.
Author:  enri [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Brill, I'll see what I can come up with and let you know :)
Author:  carlos [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
enri wrote:
Hi all, Mephiston here has been kind enough to offer an intro game to E:A at the local club this coming Monday, based on 2k points with no flyers / warmachines..

You should have the kind of intro game E&C gave me w/ Thunderhawks, Titans, Thunderbolts, etc and using the Tournament scenario to make it even more complicated. :)
FWIW It's got me hooked!
Author:  enri [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Ah no need to get me hooked, you could set up a game of epic with rules as simple as both sides roll off and the highest roll wins outright, I'd do anything for an excuse to collect and paint tiny little men! I used to play back when it was 'space marine' with those fiddly little order counters, detachment cards, etc. - loved it to death but never realised there was a strong community still playing E:A, so I've spent the past god knows how many years playing mostly 40k until now :)

Speaking of the tourney scenario... I'm guessing I'm going to need something for objectives, I know there's BTS which I don't really need anything 'for'... but what are the others I should consider modelling something for? blitz? take and hold?
Author:  carlos [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
You'll need 3 'markers' of some kind for each player. One of these goes into your table edge and the other 2 will go into the opponent's half of the table (with some restrictions). I don't think there are any restrictions on the size of these markers, but most I've seen (or done myself) are about the size of a GW round base between 25mm and 40mm. The BTS objective and the They Shall Not Pass objective don't require any markers.
Author:  enri [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Brilliant, thanks.. I think I have 3 markers that match that description for my 40k Dark Angels which will serve as vaguely useable stand-ins whilst I make something a bit more suitable :)
Author:  Mephiston [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
I have spares but it has been known for tournament regulars to place coins on the table as objectives!

The luminous green 40K flags appear regularly too.
Author:  enri [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
You've reminded me of something else I'll need... blast markers! think I'll settle for a scrap of paper and a pen for now but did fancy picking up some of those little luminous green red ones (from Litko?) like the flags at some point :)

Oh yea, before I forget, how's this?

Thrown in a land raider detachment so it's pretty much a mish mash of anything I've got assembled at the mo - a whopping total of 2275 points!

Wibble Mk2, 2275 POINTS
Codex Astartes (Epic UK v010409)
==================================================
TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 400
6 Tacticals, Transport
+Supreme Commander

TACTICAL DETACHMENT - 300
6 Tacticals, Transport

ASSAULT DETACHMENT - 225
4 Assault Units
+Chaplain

DEVASTATOR DETACHMENT - 300
4 Devastators, Transport
+Librarian

TERMINATOR DETACHMENT - 400
4 Terminators
+Chaplain

WHIRLWINDS - 300
4 Whirlwinds

LAND RAIDERS - 350
4 Land Raiders
Author:  Mephiston [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
That's plenty to start with. I'll make sure that we cover all the basics during the game. I use glass beads for blast markers and again I have enough to share.

The pretty blast markers are indeed litko.
Author:  enri [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Brilliant :) looking forward to it!
Author:  enri [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Right, everything I need's assembled.. some of it vaguely half painted.. only one concession to make is that my land raiders don't have sponsons and I might have to swap a tactical and devastator stand around owing to the fact that the wrong detachment has got the librarian modelled on it already :)
Author:  Mephiston [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Don't worry about it, I'm sure it will all make sense! See you this evening.
Author:  Mephiston [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 point intro game w/ marines
Here is what I think I'll use:-

...click to edit name..., 2270 POINTS
Black Legion (Epic UK v090710)
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BLACK LEGION RETINUE - 475
8 Chaos Space Marines
(Chaos Undivided)
Chaos Warlord
+4 Havocs

BLACK LEGION RETINUE - 340
8 Chaos Space Marines
(Chaos Undivided)
Sorcerer Lord
+4x Rhino
+Daemonic Pact

CHAOS TERMINATORS - 350
(Chaos Undivided)
4x Chaos Terminator
Daemon Prince
+Daemonic Pact

CHOSEN - 145
4 Chaos Space Marine Scouts
(Chaos Undivided)
+2x Rhino

RAPTOR CULT - 200
(Chaos Undivided)
4x Raptor
Sorcerer Lord
+Daemonic Pact

DEFILER ASSAULT PACK - 275
4 Defilers
(Chaos Undivided)

BIKE COMPANY - 325
8 Chaos Space Marines Bikes
(Chaos Undivided)
Sorcerer Lord
+Daemonic Pact

DAEMON POOL - 160
+8x Lesser Daemon
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