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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:26 pm 
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Are listings not private by default? Most I look at seem to be, and I'm fairly sure my own listings end up being private too - even ones I list using the basic form/Android app (which doesn't have the option I don't think). Even on the full form the option doesn't have much of an explanation next to it either, from what I remember. Not sure there's much of an incentive for sellers to choose to make it public, unless I'm missing something?

That price is truly crazy though. The cynic in me suspects shill bidding, but could easily be a few people figuring it doesn't really matter what the price is...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:20 am 
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I'm interested in the several bids that are not in chronological order, which (I suspect) are max bids from various bidders, since they always "outbid" an equal bid of later time. It's beaten Glyn's by over 200GBP now.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:47 am 
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I'm interested in the several bids that are not in chronological order, which (I suspect) are max bids from various bidders, since they always "outbid" an equal bid of later time. It's beaten Glyn's by over 200GBP now.


I really wish eBay would redesign the bid history view. I want it to show what the bids were at the time they were made. It would be easy to show how the item price increased at the same time, just have a column for each, with lines drawn between them. And while they're at it, they should show who made each bid - for a private listing that just means calling them "bidder 1" etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:20 pm 
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Eeesh. That thing is shilled to the max. ::)

If anyone other than the original owner ends up winning at the end of the auction, I have a church or three I'd like to sell them. ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:16 pm 
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The cynic in me emerging again: it could be preparation for a slew of buy it now "bargains by comparison". This batch of all rare items has come from nowhere, from a new user with 0 feedback (at the time). If so though, he's doing himself out of a whole bunch of fees. Of course it could equally be the old "cancelled shill bid" trick.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:55 pm 
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I have just had a drama on ebay from our old friend markfield minatures, it showed up under a different ebay name but on the check out came up as that, I was for some titans as i have listed some of my old epic stuff recently to make some space, I sold quite a few items and the bidders where all happy as some of the paintwork was pretty good!

Out of all the items sold the only person who moaned was markfield minatures other trading name for two beatle back converted titans, he said item not as described due to the bases been damaged, He did not state if they where removed i.e damaged in post or the fact they had been glued, i.e where the feet normally break!

Now i know my packing was pretty good and they where in good plastic strong container followed by a cardboard box and it would of taken a fat man jumping on them to break it! It was sent recorded delivery as all my items are.

Where do you stand with ebay/ seller /post office as i am not that clued up on the ebay system or the postoffice, do i just refund him pay postage and get the items back! Im just concerned about my feedback, and that he may be trying it on maybe..

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:55 pm 
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I will assume you are not a business seller, and you have not specified that you accept returns. See here:
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/item- ... ribed.html
Funnily enough buying from an individual gives you very little legal rights, but that's not how eBay sees it. No matter what happens, he can leave negative feedback if he wants to, so bear that in mind.

You need to find out if the damage was caused in transit (if he has damaged it deliberately it's effectively the same thing). If so, tell him you would be happy to submit a claim for damage to Royal Mail if he returns the items to you via recorded delivery (at his cost). You will then give him a refund. You should be able to re-sell the item so you won't be out financially. He probably won't want to do this as he will be out the cost of postage with nothing to show for it, but you are not obliged to do anything different.

If the damage was always there and you think it is properly described (e.g. the photo shows the damage), you can point him to the relevant evidence and give him the brush off. If you want to avoid the hassle you could still agree to the refund (as above), and you will be able to get the final value fee back.

If there was damage, you didn't mention it and it isn't clear in the photo, he can either return it for a refund (as above, at his cost) or you'll have to agree on a partial refund. Even if you think it's "common" damage, you should mention it.

Be careful, courteous, and follow the procedures to the letter. Review PayPal's policy too, because you will get no help from them if he does a chargeback unless your sending procedures are watertight.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:00 pm 
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Cheers Kyrt,

Many thanks for the info and for taking the time to write that lot up mate,

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:07 am 
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Just an update for kyrt,

Had contacted the buyer and informed him of your suggested sollutions, As for the minatures the feet where glued before painting i.e they looked perfect, also it was stated it was custom,

So i messaged the buyer to ask if the damage was due to transit as this would of been the only reason, However no replies
have been sent after two messages, I have listed some other items recently and he is bidding on them at the moment!

What annoys me is the fact that he is a trader also why would you bid on more items from a seller that you said that you where not happy with a previous item i.e stating not as described!

Also I see the sign for cancelling bids but will this perminantly block his other user names!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:56 am 
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epic wrote:
why would you bid on more items from a seller that you said that you where not happy with a previous item i.e stating not as described!


Money

If the risk is worth the resell value, I can see the reason for it. :-\

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:21 pm 
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I think you might be able to define a list of users you won't allow to bid on your items, not sure.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:00 pm 
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You can build up a list of users that you don't want to bid on your sales. But they can always use a different ebay ID to get around this.

And with one less person bidding then you will get lower sales price.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:01 am 
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Just a quick thought, but have you asked for a photograph of the damage? Based on the fact that 1) this guy is a reseller, and 2) perhaps of dubious morals, I wouldn't necessarily trust that these had been damaged without photographic proof.

Also, I would block his bids on your other items from that account. Are you sure he is not just asking for full or partial refunds in order to maximise the resale value of the stuff that you have just sold him? Claimng damage without grounds just so that the seller settles for a partial refund and you don't pay the full cost of the item is a fairly old ploy on eBay, I am afraid.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Cheers for the reply, You may be correct as he finally replied saying sorry for the delay, he said the bases where damaged
and as regards to the refund he said just refund partial postage!

Now in my eyes the items went for next to nothing which was not a drama as i was cleaning out my all of my old sm1 stuff
but as the item was not damaged when packed i will just get royal mail to refund as it was recorded,

Otherwise as you have stated if i refund him postage he will get the items for next to nothing ???

Im all for a bargain thats why i love ebay at times but i dont want to be taken for a muppet :{[]

Thankfully i tend to purchase mainly on ebay and only sell from time to time, as you have stated some people
have ruined a decent auction site ???


Only drama now is that if i remove his bids he will probably just get the hump and leave bad feedback!

I should probably change my listings in the future to anyone above 10 feedback score do not bid ;D


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:22 pm 
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I was looking over this thread again and one of MFM's alias rang a bell with me. I dealt with him as 2004Spen.

It's worth saying that the following is only based on my own experience and what I subsequently believe occurred, there's no proof of any wrong doing and I had a choice in every decision made.

It was a few years back, I was relatively inexperienced on ebay and had never sold any items up until this point. I had one of those limited edition witch hunter models which I'd put up along with a whole bunch of other stuff to pay for a lads holiday to Dublin. I got a question about the item from him with a sob story about his son wanting it for his birthday which was before the auction finished (it was years ago so the details are hazy). He asked me to take it down off ebay so he could buy it direct from me that day, he offered a fair price so I agreed and the money was in my account pretty shortly after. I'm sure you've all guessed where this is going but long story short he claimed the item never arrived and then got me to refund the cost of the model, which I did. I'm not really sure how he managed this tbh, it was probably through guilt tripping and also my own sense of what the right thing would be to do for somebody else genuinely in this position. I have infact had people offer to do a similar thing when trades on this forum have taken a while to go through and I've always refused any compensation because of this case. I realised shortly after I'd likely been mugged off and it left a really sour taste. :{[]

It's quite embarrassing to admit how naive I was and how easy I was to manipulate, but the lesson's been learnt now even if I had to learn it the hard way.

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