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Author:  adam77 [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Are EpicUK planning a squat list?

Author:  kyussinchains [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:54 pm ]
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I've asked about this a few times and the response I get is 'we're not ruling it out....'

AFAIK there are no immediate plans....

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:00 pm ]
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I'd be surprised if they don't do one, whether Squats or more generic "Space Dwarfs", we'll see.

Author:  kyussinchains [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:45 pm ]
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Well I know the next one isn't squats and there is another non-squat list being worked on too..... I won't say any more for fear of overstepping my bounds.....

Author:  stompzilla [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:24 pm ]
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I've suggested a squat/mechanicus (There's a huge amounbt of overlap and no harm in counts as) list in the past. The only thing I know is that there's no immediate plans.

Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:12 am ]
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However, there aren't many lists left which still have models available on the open market.

Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:01 am ]
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stompzilla wrote:
I've suggested a squat/mechanicus (There's a huge amounbt of overlap and no harm in counts as) list in the past. The only thing I know is that there's no immediate plans.

youd have to ban mechanicus from taking titans (weird, as there's no other army in the whole setting more likely to operate alongside titans, including marines and.IG). Best to let squats be squats, and counts as at your own pleasure.

Author:  Moscovian [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:48 am ]
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People from EpicUK have very much abandoned working with me on the Squat list, despite huuuge compromises on absolutely every front. Let it be known that I did everything I could to make a list that would be uniform across both groups. It feels a lot like an idea isn't a good one unless somebody from EpicUK actually voices it.

Author:  CyberShadow [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:58 pm ]
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Moscovian wrote:
People from EpicUK have very much abandoned working with me on the Squat list, despite huuuge compromises on absolutely every front. Let it be known that I did everything I could to make a list that would be uniform across both groups. It feels a lot like an idea isn't a good one unless somebody from EpicUK actually voices it.


Clearly you are not a part of the old boys network! Be proud! ;)

Author:  adam77 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:56 pm ]
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Vive la différence! as a i like to say, be interesting to compare efforts...

Author:  madd0ct0r [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:57 am ]
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good lists will live.

Author:  Steve54 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:48 am ]
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Moscovian wrote:
People from EpicUK have very much abandoned working with me on the Squat list, despite huuuge compromises on absolutely every front. Let it be known that I did everything I could to make a list that would be uniform across both groups. It feels a lot like an idea isn't a good one unless somebody from EpicUK actually voices it.


I'm not sure why you think EpicUK are trying to undermine your Squat list, the only committee member who I recall being involved was Tiny-Tim who, judging by the fact he has been buying lots of Squats, is still involved as time allows.
There was a lot of heated discussion between yourself and several people who have playtested EUK lists and are just as critical when doing that.

Author:  Moscovian [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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Not saying EpicUK are trying to undermine my list at all. I don't even know the leadership structure at EpicUK. To paraphrase what you told me years back, what EpicUK does doesn't concern me... And it doesn't. My comments weren't an indictment, just my opinion, and what I got was a bunch of flak from EpicUK players who talked about ths Thurgrimm's list like it was a pariah. Then a near identical version of my list gets posted on a UK forum and it is lauded as being spectacular. I don't mind that it was copied, modified, sourced, whatever. What I mind is the attitude that my list sucked while a near identical list was marvelous, seemingly based only on who had put it out there. I got the same attitude about the Necrons, told that I was a terrible list maker. Then the Necron UK list comes out with very few modifications and it is a Mona Lisa. It's annoying. (see video above)

I still would love help from the EpicUK players (or EpicUK leadership, however that works) on putting out a unified list if possible. I see that being the best thing for everybody. Curis was heavily involved. I took a large portion of his ideas and incorporated them into the Thurgrimm list. Yet his involvement dropped off to nothing.

Of course Morgan Vening (Australia group) fell off the Earth too and hasn't returned to my team, so maybe I just suck as a human being...

Author:  Steve54 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:24 pm ]
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Its not just you Curis seems to have disappeared - I've PMed, emailed + texted and still haven't been sent his tournament results

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