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Author:  DaCone2 [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Brigade Neosoviets

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to try and make a faction for ( mostly ) brigades neosoviet models as they're very nice and surprisingly cheap...
My progress on my neosov so far: ( plus some infantry )
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First idea:
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Medium Tank with cannon ( Vehicle ) - Bizon
Speed: 25cm
Armour: 4+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 5+
Main Cannon: 45cm AP5+/AT4+
Machine Gun: 2x 30cm AP6+

Does that sound reasonable?
Maybe around 600-700 for the 12?

Author:  Legion 4 [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Looks good to me !

Author:  DaCone2 [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Thanks Legion 4, seems strange epic doesn't really have a faction with a medium tank company ( or even mbt's )
Only close is the leman russes but they're more heavy tanks?

Medium Tank with 2 dual light cannon ( Vehicle ) - Bizon Support Tank
Speed: 25cm
Armour: 4+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 4+
Main Cannon: 2x 45cm AP3+/AT6+
Machine Gun: 2x 30cm AP6+

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This one is more like a Baneblade Light: ( Less weapons and Hits )
Heavy with double heavy cannon ( War Engine ) - Mammont
Speed: 15cm
Armour: 4+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 4+
Heavy Cannon: 75cm AP3+/AT3+
Heavy Cannon: 75cm AP3+/AT3+
Machine Gun: 2x 30cm AP6+
Damage Capacity 2, Reinforced Armour.

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Author:  jimmyzimms [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

700 - 750 for 12 sounds good. They lack the AT punch of the closest analog to the Leman Russ but there's more of them :D Perhaps addition of TRA?

The Leman Russ is basically a MBT. There are heavy tanks in 40/EA such as the Malcador and Land Raider. Either way, the EA rules don't well represent them so not really too much a worry.

Author:  DaCone2 [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

I'm thinking if i strip things back a tiny bit from steel legion eqv and add a few in the detachment hopefully it wont be too out from the original points?

700 for 12 Tanks then?
250 for extra 4 or straight extra platoon. ( a little more expensive )

For the Dakkatank 225 for 4? Loses its Main advantage of AT?

Maybe 150 for 3 of the heavy tanks? Lose a damage point from a baneblade and some of the minor weapons but get extra main gun?
60 Each?

Author:  Legion 4 [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Some nice work on those Russkies ! The one there reminds me of a real Russian WWII tank, the KV1 ...

But I agree with JZ, the Leman Russ is an MBT as is the Predator, IMO ...

Author:  lylekelm [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

That's a lovely range of tanks.

Author:  DaCone2 [ Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Cheers LyleKelm, been doing a bit of infantry too but dont have pics yet.

Legion 4, I always liked the KV2 more cos it looked funny :D


Done a little more thinking of the rules:
Cannon Artillery ( Vehicle ) - Shtorm SP Artillery
Speed: 20cm
Armour: 5+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 6+
Earthshaker 100cm AP4+/AT4+
or 100cm 1BP, Ind
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Missile Artillery ( Vehicle ) - Vikhr Katyusha
Speed: 20cm
Armour: 5+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 6+
Rocket Launcher 100cm 1BP, D, Ind, Slw
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Tank Hunter ( Vehicle ) - Tank Mech Hunter ( Top of pic )
Speed: 20cm
Armour: 4+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 6+
Long Range Cannon: 75cm AP5+/AT4+
Machine Gun: 2x 30cm AP6+
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Missile Carrier ( Vehicle ) - Osa ( Right of pic )
Speed: 30cm
Armour: 5+
Close Combat: 6+
Firefight: 6+
Missiles: 30cm AT3+

Author:  Legion 4 [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Nice stuff ! Yes, the KV2's turret looked too big. Because it had to be to house that 152mm.

The GW Epic Ragnarok DKoK MBT looks somewhat like it ... [horrible paint on these I found on eBay ! :o ]

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Author:  DaCone2 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Didnt they house a normal artillery piece in it or something?
I love the ragnarok but unfortunately im poor...

The Brigade stuff is daft cheap compared to other companies and still nice casts.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Brigade Neosoviets

Yes, the KV-2 had a 152mm cannon ... So yes, it was a BIG Gun ! ;D

And yes, Most Epic stuff is pretty expensive these days ... :( But I've got all I need ! :D

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