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Author:  uvenlord [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Gargant vs Skitarii

Had a fight against Mordoten a couple of days ago.
Tried to beat him with his “own” Gargants this time. He took his Skitarii as usual ;)

The Armies:
EpicUK Skitarii (210115)
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SKITARII [400]
1 Secutor units, 9 Hypaspist units, Magos, Hydra, Gorgon

SKITARII [350]
1 Secutor units, 9 Hypaspist units, Hydra, Gorgon

SAGITARII [400]
5 Sagitarii units, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers, Hydra, Gorgon, 2 Sagitarii Units

SAGITARII [400]
5 Sagitarii units, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers, Hydra, Gorgon, 2 Sagitarii Units

SENTRY [200]
4 Robots, 3 Rapiers, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers

SENTRY [200]
4 Robots, 3 Rapiers, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers

ORDINATUS MINORIS [325]
Minoris (3x Twin-Hydra Autocannons), Minoris (Plasma Destructor)

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers

ORBITAL SUPPORT [150]
One Adeptus Mechanicus Cruiser

Gargant Bigmob (3.2.1 - Developmental)
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GARGANT [700]
2 Deth Kannon, Mega Choppa, (Kustom) Wyrdboy Tower, (Kustom) Power Fields

GARGANT [550]
3 Gatling Kannon

GARGANT [600]
3 Mega Choppa, (Kustom) Reinforced Boiler, (Kustom) Extra Armour Bitz

SUPA STOMPA [350]
3 Soopagun, (Kustom) Extra Armour Bitz

FIGHTA-BOMMERS [150]
3 Fighta-Bommers

FIGHTA-BOMMERS [150]
3 Fighta-Bommers

FIGHTA-BOMMERS [150]
3 Fighta-Bommers

LOOTA WARBAND (NORMAL) [175]
6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kan

LOOTA WARBAND (NORMAL) [175]
6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Killa Kan


The plan was to move in to the mibble of the field and dominate all four objectives there, leaving my Deth Shooting Gargant a little bit behind so it could guard my own blitz.
Didn’t quite go as planned but anyway…

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I might have mixed up the Skitarii and the Sagitarii (sorry they all look the same to me  )
The game started with a lot of airstrikes that led to nothing (9 fightabombas aganst tried to take away a hydra but failed)
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The Gargants moved forward and tries to break the middlemost enemy. The Skitarii focus on the Gargant to the left and the Supastompa.
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Almost all formations is ready to engage, this turn will show how effective the Gargants really are.
A whole Skitarii formation engages the Lootas but a really good resolution roll makes the Lootas win. Fair, no but fun! Supastompa and a Gargant takes on the nearby Sagitarii but doesn’t manage to kill them. Supastompa is broken and rushes towards the enemy blitz hoping to roll a 6’ in the rally phase  Ordinatus (with air support) moves up and takes away all shields and does a DC on the Gatlin Gargant.
CC Gargant engages and kills all Sentries that hides behind the factory. Other Sentries moves away from charging distance.
Middle Lootas is almost killed but manages to flee toward own blitz.
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Turn 3 is a lot of grinding. On the left flank the Gargants tries to whipe out the broken formation. The Gatlin Gargant is almost destroyed but only breaks and surround the remaining Skitarii. The CC Gargant moves in closer for the next turn.
End of turn 3 and no winner.
Turn 4, the Gatlin Gargant doubles toward the enemy Blitz. Lots of planes and stuff tries to stop him but fails. The rest of the team clean up in the middle
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Victory to the Gargants! 2-0

Conclusions:
It was a bad matchup for the Skitarii and a fun game.
The Gatlin Gargant was really good.
The CC orientated Gargant was lucky to get some opponents, but really controlled his part of the battlefield, it feels like ha can be outactivated against a faster army but still.
Next time I will probably try almost the same army, perhaps a deth cannon less and another Wyrdboy tower. And perhaps change the Supastompa to something else, it was a little bit to hard to rally :)

Author:  Apocolocyntosis [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

that's a lot of flack and tbolts for the skitarii, was the list tailored to expecting the orks to fill out on air?

Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Thanks for the report.

Author:  mordoten [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Apocolocyntosis wrote:
that's a lot of flack and tbolts for the skitarii, was the list tailored to expecting the orks to fill out on air?


I always run that list wiith alot of flak and airplanes. But I've decided to change 1 of the thunderbolts for another sentry formation next time i use it!

Author:  primarch [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Hi!

Cool report!

Primarch

Author:  dptdexys [ Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Good report.

The Skitarii list posted is 125 short, in the pictures there looks to be a third minoris which would account for the points. If so what was the third minoris armed with.

uvenlord wrote:

ORDINATUS MINORIS [325]
Minoris (3x Twin-Hydra Autocannons), Minoris (Plasma Destructor)

Author:  mordoten [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Yes, you're right! 2 Minoris with hydras and 1 with plasma destructor.

Author:  Graf_Spee [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

hi,

we played the list last sunday. gargants vs. biel tan.
there might be a detailed batrep coming up as well.

biel tan won. 2:0 on turn 3, due to outmanouvering and keeping the ganrgants broken with disrupt barrage weapons (night spinner), which work superbly in taking down shields and then putting a ton of blastmarkers on the bigger gargants.


in my opinion for super stompas the extra armour bits is a must have.
gives them 1 extra in cc and ff and also more resistility vs bm and it reallies better due to 5+ mob rule.
what really causes pain to eldar was paired mega lobbas on gargants vs. SoVs. lots of blastmarkers leaving them incapacitatet.
also a great gargant with reinforced boiler rushing down in roadmode towards your blitz (50cm per turn on double!) is something that you really can't ignore. brutal. in the end the swooping hawks, night spinners and phantom titan (2xpulsar) saved the day.

Author:  mordoten [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

Cool! Thanks for your yhoughts! Looking forward to a detailed report!

Just a question: Did you play that all gargants always gets +2 when calculating "Mob Rule"?

Author:  lord-bruno [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gargant vs Skitarii

I also played Skitarii vs Orks on the weekend. Breakout scenario though.

Ordinatus Majoris with Sonic Disruptor really kills the orks, erasing one big formation per turn ;D

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