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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs SM 3000p
Played another game this week with my AMTL. I've boasted big about how i could produce 6 battlereports in 2 months around x-mas but didn't do that. I managed to only play against developed-status lists the last 2 months. This was my first game against an approved list.

My force was:

Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Legio Gryphonicus (NetEA v3.18 *UNDER DEVELOPMENT*)
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REAVER TITAN [725]
Legate, Carapace Multi-Lasers, 2 Gatling Blaster, Laser Burner

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

FORGE KNIGHTS [250]
5 Forge Knights

RECON PLATOON [100]
4 Sentinels

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

REAVER TITAN [800]
Veteran Princeps, Carapace Multi-Lasers, 2 Quake Cannon, Carapace Landing Pad

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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
My friends (Victor) force:

Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Codex Astartes (NetEA Tournament Pack 2013)
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ASSAULT [225]
4 Assault Units, Chaplain

DEVASTATOR [250]
4 Devastators

THUNDERHAWK [200]

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR [400]
4 Terminators, Chaplain

TACTICAL [450]
6 Tacticals, Supreme Commander, Hunter, Rhinos

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [175]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters

WARHOUND [275]
1 Warhound Class Titan

WHIRLWIND [300]
4 Whirlwinds

PREDATOR [325]
4 Annihilator, Hunter

LAND SPEEDER [200]
5 Landspeeder

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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
The set up was fairly simple: TL objectoves close to the middle exactly 30 cm apart. SM Objctives deep in enemy territory on each flank. Blitz objectives was facing each other hidden behind hills/mountains.

No garrisons. AMTL spread out across the whole board. Marines choose to put most troops on the center-right flank.

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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
Turn 1: Sm wins initiative and hands it over to AMTL.

TL: Put Thunderbolts on CAP.

SM: Land Speeders advance forward.

TL: Warhound on right flank adcvances forward thru the forest and fires on the Land Speeders. 2 die.

SM: Predators advance on the right flank and fires back at the warhound who shot down the Land Speeders. They strip 2 shields, do 2 DC damage and break it.

TL: Quake-Reaver (BTS) advances forward and then fires indirectly on whirlwinds. 3 of them are destroyed and the formation breaks.

SM: Tacticals (BTS) doubles into building in front of them.

TL: Senitnels double forward on the left flank.

SM: Warhound doubles forward on the left flank.

TL: Warhound doubles towards left flank and fires on the SM-Warhound. 1 BM.

SM: Thunderbolts go on CAP.

TL: Forge Knights advance forward.

TL:Middle Warhound doubles towards right flank and fires on Predators. 2 are destroyed.

TL: GB-Reaver doubles up along the road and fires on Tacticals in building. 1 BM.

TL: Thunderbolts stand down.

END PHASE:

TL Warhound rallies.
Whirlwinds rallies.

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Author:  Vaaish [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
Cool so far! Quick question, are you playing ona 6x4 table? For some reason it seems a bit small in your pics.
Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
TURN 2: SM wins initiative.

SM: Land Speeders double to the right flank and fires at AMTL-Warhound. Strips 1 shield.

SM: Thunderhawk with Devs and Assault retains and ground assaults the same Warhound. Thunderbolts intercept.Defesive flak from the Thunderhawk forces Thunderbolts to Jink. The Warhound is destroyed for no SM losses. Both marine formations consolidate backwards behind a hill.

TL: Sentinels doubles on the left flank and comes up behind the SM-Warhound. They fire on it and strips 1 shield.

TL: Warhound retains with the help of the SC and advances toward tthe SM-Warhound on the left flank. Crossfire is claimed but only 1 shield is stripped.

SM: Warhound Marshalls and fires on TL-Warhound. 2 shields are stripped.

SM: Thunderhawk with Terminators retain and ground assaults the Quake Reaver before he can cause more devastation. Some abyssmal rolling wipes out al lthe terminators, but they manage to do 3 DC on the Reaver.

TL: Quake-Reaver holds and fires on Tacticals in the building thats in front of it. 2 marine stands and 1 Rhino dies.

SM: Whirlwinds sustain on Quake-Reaver, strips 2 shields.

TL: GB-Reaver advances to the landing pad in the middle of the board and fires on the SM-Warhound. "DC is done and the Warhound breaks.

SM: Tacticals MArshalls and fires on the Quake-Reaver. They manage to do only 1 BM but thats enough to break it. The fearless Revaer stays put though.

TL: Warhound on the right flank sustains on Land Speeders and wipes out the formation.

SM: Predators double forward and fires on Forge Knights, 1 BM.

TL: Forge Knights Double forward and return the favour to the Predators. 1 BM.

TL: Thunderbolts stand down.

END PHASE:

SM-WArhound rallies.
Quake-Reaver rallies.

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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
Vaaish: Yes, thats a 180x120cm table, thats 6x4 right?
Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
Turn 3: TL wins initiative (finally!!)

TL: Quake-Reaver sustains on Devs and Assaults on the left flank. Both formations loose 3 stands each and breaks (yaaay!)

TL: Forge Knight retains and engages Predators. The Predators are wiped out for no Knight losses. (the right flank crumbles for the Marines!)

SM: SM-Warhound marches down to claim T&H objective on left flank.

TL: Sentinels doubles back and fires on the SM-Warhound, 1BM.

SM: Whirlwinds sustain on Sentinels, kills 1.

TL: Warhound doubles close to SM Blitz and fires on Whirlwind, 1 BM.

SM: Tacticals doubles to T&H objective on the left flank and fires on Senitnels, they kill 1 and the formation breaks.

TL: Thunderbolts ground attack Whirlwind. SM Thunderbolts intercept. 1 AMTL Thunderbolt is sht down and the other makes it´s Jink sve.

SM: Thunderhawk lands bu AMTL-Blitz.

TL: Warhound doubles down to to AMTL blitz to contest it and fires on TActicals. 1 Hunter dies.

TL: Thunderbolts stand down.

TL: Gb-Reaver engages Tacticals and wipes them out completly, claiming the BTS Objective.

END PHASE:

Devastators fail to rally.
Assault marines rally.

The SM player concedes the game since he only has 4 formations thats not broken or dead and the AMTL has 4 titans left.

the end result is: AMTL 1 (BTS) - SM 0

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Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
My thoughts:

Quake-Reaver was great and devastaing. Liked mit more than i thought i would.
Forge Knights did theor job. But the engagement they won was a very easy one so i can't say if they are UP or OP.
Marines shuld have air assaulted right away and taken out the Quake-Reaver. MW barrages are a marin army biggest enemy.

Fun game!
Author:  Vaaish [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
Yep, that's the right size. guess the pics just made it look off :)

Marines vs. Titans is always a tough battle for marines. It's a bit hard to see in the shots up there but it looks like he really bunched up his units which makes the quake MW template devastating. I think I'd have spread out more to keep as few units under the templates.

I think the earliest I'd have seen assaulting the Reaver was the start of t2. Give you a turn to strip shields and put BM on it and get your speeders into position for supporting fire. Then teleport the Termies in t2, and assault with a thawk or the termies and then try to retain and kill the reaver with whatever hadn't assaulted yet. It's a tough fight either way but it should be enough to pop the reaver.

The other option would be to try killing off all your small stuff and ignore the reavers. I think he had enough to wipe out most of the other formations, but he would have had to be pretty committed to whittle you down as quickly as possible.

How did you feel about the 6 shot GB?
Author:  mordoten [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
oh, i like the 6 shot GB!! :-) It's alot of shots granted, but it's not that much of a supermega deathweapon of total destruction and doom. I think it works good. But i can't reallt see people take LD after this change...
Author:  Vaaish [ Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: AMTL vs SM 3000p
You mean the TLD? I think it will still show up on warlords but not so much battle titans.
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