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| Author: | Markconz [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
My old epic site is filling up, so I've started blog, with battle report here: http://hordesofthings.blogspot.co.nz/20 ... titan.html Thoughts on Death Guard List - not being able to march is hard! Plague Towers - what are they good for? How do you fight a Warlock, Phantom and Revenants with these guys?  Anyway - enjoy the pics and report!   
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| Author: | Steve54 [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Thanks for the batrep, new DG list is underway |
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| Author: | Markconz [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Cool thanks Steve. |
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| Author: | Berkut666 [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Nice report. Your right about eldar titans, especially those fitted with Holoshields. I normally play as SM and against eldar I either avoid the titans or throw a lot of fire at them to break the Holoshields then teleport in Termies and go toe to toe. I have said several times on here (and been shot down) that SM need a TK weapon |
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| Author: | SpeakerToMachines [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Markconz wrote: How do you fight a Warlock, Phantom and Revenants with these guys? Crossfire works really well, as I've learnt to my dismay. A 3+/5+ save is a lot less impressive when reduced to a 4+/6+ save... |
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| Author: | Markconz [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
SpeakerToMachines wrote: Markconz wrote: How do you fight a Warlock, Phantom and Revenants with these guys? Crossfire works really well, as I've learnt to my dismay. A 3+/5+ save is a lot less impressive when reduced to a 4+/6+ save... Definitely possible given how the Warlock likes to get into the thick of it, cheers. |
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| Author: | Markconz [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Berkut666 wrote: Nice report. Your right about eldar titans, especially those fitted with Holoshields. I normally play as SM and against eldar I either avoid the titans or throw a lot of fire at them to break the Holoshields then teleport in Termies and go toe to toe. I have said several times on here (and been shot down) that SM need a TK weapon Yes I went for avoiding them for the most part. I was aiming to assault the Phantom with Termis but it managed to run away before I could get to it. Managed to assault Revenants with Termis (and Daemons) but they survived unfortunately. Cheers. |
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| Author: | caregadras [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Kick-ass report! wonderful Markconz! |
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| Author: | Dobbsy [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Berkut666 wrote: I have said several times on here (and been shot down) that SM need a TK weapon LOL Nothing 12 Land Raiders couldn't handle I think  No one ever thinks of the Land Raiders! 
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| Author: | Berkut666 [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
The cost of 12 land raiders would be restrictive..... |
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| Author: | SpeakerToMachines [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5K Death Guard vs Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Legio |
Against Eldar Titans, volume of fire is more important than strength of shot. Mathhammer, comparing a Volcano Cannon to a Battle Cannon or Twin-linked Lascannon firing at a Holo-fielded Eldar: 1x MW2+ TK(D3) 5/6 * 1/3 * 2 = 0.555 Dmg/Shot 1x AT4+ 1/2 * 1/3 * 2/3 = 0.111 Dmg/Shot So, two and a half Land Raider would be able to put out as much damage as a Shadowsword. Same calculations, now assuming crossfire: 1x MW2+ TK(D3) 5/6 * 1/2 * 2 = 0.833 Dmg/Shot 1x AT4+ 1/2 * 1/2 * 5/6 = 0.208 Dmg/Shot The lighter weapons benefit more from the crossfire bonus; Two Land Raiders will do as much damage as a Shadowsword. Being a faster platform, they would probably be able to get into a crossfiring position easier. TL;DR: Against Eldar Titans, I don't think Marines need any weapons they don't already have. |
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