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480 - Medium Mycetic Swarm
1 Hive Tyrant, 2 Warriors, 8 Termagants, 4 Hormagaunts, 3 Carnifex
200 - Small Mycetic Swarm
2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts
200 - Small Mycetic Swarm
2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts
200 - Small Mycetic Swarm
2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts
200 - Small Mycetic Swarm
2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts
440 - Small Mycetic Swarm
2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts, 4 Malefactor
300 - Bio-Artillery Swarm
4 Dactylis
200 - Genestealer Swarm
8 Genestealers
200 - Lictor Swarm
4 Lictors
300 - Trygon Swarm
3 Trygons
275 - Harridan
4 Gargoyles
2995/11

REGIMENTAL HQ [550]
Supreme Commander, 12 Infantry, 7 Chimera, Hydra

INFANTRY COMPANY [300]
Commander, 12 Infantry, Hydra

TANK COMPANY [650]
10 Leman Russ

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders

STORM TROOPER PLATOON [350]
8 Storm Troopers, Valkyrie Transport

SENTINEL SQUADRON [100]
4 Sentinels

ARTILLERY BATTERY [250]
3 Basilisks

ARTILLERY BATTERY [250]
3 Basilisks

ARTILLERY BATTERY [250]
3 Manticores

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:	[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Eric took the 'nids to points with his Guard last weekend. We counted synapse-less swarms as completely destroyed for the Tiebreak and the Guard won 1670 to 1375. If these weren't only meant to be 1/2 points (as the formations were unbroken and reduced to 1/2 strength or less) then it would have been 1250 to 1375 and the nids would have won. Tyranids Code: 480 - Medium Mycetic Swarm 1 Hive Tyrant, 2 Warriors, 8 Termagants, 4 Hormagaunts, 3 Carnifex 200 - Small Mycetic Swarm 2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts 200 - Small Mycetic Swarm 2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts 200 - Small Mycetic Swarm 2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts 200 - Small Mycetic Swarm 2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts 440 - Small Mycetic Swarm 2 Warriors, 4 Termagants, 2 Hormagaunts, 4 Malefactor 300 - Bio-Artillery Swarm 4 Dactylis 200 - Genestealer Swarm 8 Genestealers 200 - Lictor Swarm 4 Lictors 300 - Trygon Swarm 3 Trygons 275 - Harridan 4 Gargoyles 2995/11 Imperial Guard Code: REGIMENTAL HQ [550] Supreme Commander, 12 Infantry, 7 Chimera, Hydra INFANTRY COMPANY [300] Commander, 12 Infantry, Hydra TANK COMPANY [650] 10 Leman Russ ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150] 6 Rough Riders STORM TROOPER PLATOON [350] 8 Storm Troopers, Valkyrie Transport SENTINEL SQUADRON [100] 4 Sentinels ARTILLERY BATTERY [250] 3 Basilisks ARTILLERY BATTERY [250] 3 Basilisks ARTILLERY BATTERY [250] 3 Manticores THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150] 2 Thunderbolts

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Start of Game Start of Game The Dactylis hit the Storm troopers and take out one and a Valkyrie. The Harridan advances and lays a BM on the Sentinels. The Swarm in the open is broken from Manticore fire, looseing 5 brood. Another Manticore formation lays a BM on the Line Breaker. The BTS marches up. The Tbolts fail to activate. A Swarm marches up. The Basilisks fail to activate. A Swarm marches up. The Guard in cover sustain on the BTS and take out a gaunt. The Genestealers engage the Sentinels. Two go down along with 3 stealers. The Sentinels are hacked down. The HQ doubles and breaks the stealers. A Swarm marches up. The Line Breaker doubles up and lays a BM on the storm troopers. The Storm Troopers marshal. The Russes double and lay a BM on the Swarm in cover. The Storm troopers attempt to double, fail and move.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Turn 2 Turn 2 The Trygons arrive and the BTS takes an Manticore hit. The Storm Troopers advance on the Line Breaker and kill its warriors. The Dactylis put some hurt on the HQ. The Lictors fail to engage. The Leman Russ double on the Line Breaker and take lay a BM. The Basilisks hit the BTS and take out a Warrior. The Stealers attempt to engage the HQ, fail to hit and die. The Trygons take fire from the Infantry. The Harridan breaks the HQ with a crossfire. The Storm Troopers advance and break the line breaker. The Manticores attempt to advance, fail and move. The Trygons engage the HQ. They fail two saves and break. The BTS advances. A Swarm doubles. A Swarm doubles. A Swarm engages the Infantry in cover. Two Brood go down and lots of Guardsmen buy it from support. The Guardsmen fall back. A Swarm sustains on the Storm Troopers and takes one out.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Turn 3 Turn 3 The Manticores hit the BTS. The other Manticores kill two Warriors out in the open. The Dactylis break the Storm Troopers. The Harridan advances and takes out a Valkyrie. The Leman Russ double and break the Line Breaker again. The Tbolts straffe the BTS. The BTS marshals. The Basilisks take out the Tryant and the BTS is synapseless. The Storm Troopers advance on the BTS and lay another BM. A Swarm advances and lays a BM on the Storm Troopers. A Swarm engages the Storm Troopers, two Brood and a Warrior go down to 5 IG. A single Storm trooper breaks. The Infantry sustain on the Brood in cover and lay a BM. The Lictors engage the Manticores. They wipe them out. The Rough Riders march up. The Leman Russ take fire from a Swarm in cover. Another Swarm doubles to impede them next turn.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Turn 4 Turn 4 A Basilisk barage takes out the Warriors in another swarm. A Manticore barrage breaks the BTS. Dactylis take out a Russ. Even Termagants pile into CC to deny the Russes their FF. The bugs emerge victorious and break the Russes. The Tbolts straffe the BTS. The Harridan barges three Rough Riders. They Are hacked down. End of Game End of Game

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Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
I think we need to talk about the tiebreak conditions. Spawning gives the 'nids an inherent advantage with it, which is why I counted swarms as completely destroyed when they loose their synapse. I think this helps balance things out more, like how Necrons are counted as destroyed when they are off board. If we're going to be allowing brood creatures to be spawned to other formations, I also think that a formation should count as half strength of less when its spawning pool equals or exceeds what's left of the formation on the board. The one caveat to this would be that half-strength for a formation can never be reduced to less than what it started the game at.

Author:	zombocom [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
Nids should have an advantage in a tie-break; anyone trying to win a war of attrition against them is bound to lose.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.4 vs IG (NetEA) - 2011/04/03
I agree, but I don't think a tiebreak is always synonymous with a war of attrition. The spawning gives them a bonus against formation erosion over the course of the game, that's what makes them an attrition army. A 'nid army without any synapse though has little to no cohesion and essentially falls apart at the seems. An opponent who has taken out a swarm's leadership should be rewarded with full points as those brood creatures aren't going to be much of a threat to their enemies after the game ends.

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