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Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:	[Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/20
Another very close game. We called it with a couple activations left in the 4th as the 'nids would have had to do quite a bit to get 2 VPs and was staying open for us. So the 'nids won in the 4th in points, ~1250 to ~1000. Matt, check your list. Did you use 75 points for the Vindicator or 50? Space Marines Code: 175 - Assault 250 - Bike Chaplain 200 - Bike 250 - Devastator 475 - Land Raider Hunter, Vindicator 200 - Land Speeder 200 - Scout 2 Razorbacks 475 - Tactical Supreme Commander, Hunter 300 - Tactical 200 - Thunderhawk 250 - Marauders 2975/11 Tyranid Code: 450 - Tyranid Warriors Hive Tyrant, Hormagaunts, Termagants, Carnifex 450 - Tyranid Warriors Hive Tyrant, Hormagaunts, Termagants, Carnifex 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Tyranid Warriors Hormagaunts, Termagants 275 - Harridan 4 Gargoyles 250 - Genestealer Swarm Broodlord 200 - Lictor Swarm 1 Lictor 3000/10

Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
Start of Game Start of Game The Bombers take out the Tyrant and 3 Gaunts in Swarm 5. The Stealers engage the Speeders and Scouts on overwatch, loosing one to fire. They take down two Rhinos and a scout, loose, and the Broodlord withdraws. The Bikes march to the buildings. Swarm 4 doubles and takes out a Bike. The Tacticals double and lay a BM on Swarm 4. Swarm 5 marshals, moving up and recovering its losses. The Chaplains doubles to behind the Bikes. Swarm 7 marches to the buildings. The Land Raiders advance and take out a Warrior in Swarm 4. Swarm 6 marches up. The SC doubles and lays a BM on Swarm 7. The Harridan doubles a lays a BM on the SC. The Thunderhawk lands and assaults Swarm 7. Three gaunts go down. The other 5 are hacked down and the Warriors break. Swarm 3 marches to the woods. Swarm 1 marches to the Marine's right flank. Swarm 2 marches to the buildings.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
Turn 2, the Lictors teleport in with 3 BMs... dumbasses. The Devastators head back to Break the Lictors, killing two in the process. The Land Raiders advance back and open fire on Swarm 3, killing a Warrior. Swarm 1 clips the Speeders. Two go down in resolution and they fall back. Swarm 2 engages the scouts. One gaunts goes down along with 2 scouts and a rhino. The last scout is hacked down. The Bikes engage Swarm 3, tie on the first turn and half to goto a second where a Carni got into base. They are wiped out and the 'nids take no losses. The Chaplain attempt the same thing, but fails with a reroll and decides to screen the Tacticals. Swarm 4 attempts to engage the bikes but fails and regroups. The Tacticals engage Swarm 3. One fex and two gaunts go down. The resolution hacks down everything but the Fearless stuff. The Assult Marines retain an engage Swarm 6. One Marine goes down along with one gaunt. One more gaunt was hacked down and the nids break. Swarm 7 attempt to marshal, fails, and regroups. The Thunderhawk straffes the Harridan and takes out a Gargoyle. Swarm 5 doubles on the Assault Marines and lays a BM. The SC doubles Swarm 2 and lays a BM. The Harridan engages the Assault Marines. Two go down but the last escapes being hacked down. The Bombers straffe Swarm 6 and take out 2 Gaunts and get two hack downs.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
Turn 3 The SC advances on Swarm 2 and takes out 4 Gaunts. The Chaplain retains and engages Swarm 2. One Gaunt goes down. All but the Warriors are hacked down. The Harridan engages the Devastators. 1 goes down. The Shaolin Devastators earn their moniker, breaking the Harridan in base to base... The Tacticals sustain on Swarm 4 and take out a Warrior. Swarm 7 doubles on the Devastators, laying a BM. The bombers straffe Swarm 6 and blow the crap out of it. Swarm 3 advances on the Chaplain and lays a BM. Swarm 1 engages the Bikes. 4 Gaunts go down to 3 bikes (chaplain included). Another bike is hacked down. The Land Raiders kill the last Warrior is Swarm 4. The Land Speeders double on Swarm 4 and lay another BM. Swarm 4 marches to Swarm 3. The Assault Marines take hold their Blitz. Swarm 5 engages the Land Speeders. 1 Speeder and 1 gaunt go down. The Speeders are wiped out. The Thunderhawk lands to deny They Shall Not Pass and hacks down a Gaunt. The Broodlord Marches to be annoying next turn. The Devastators engage the Lictors. And wipe them out.

Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
Turn 4 The Land Raiders advances and take out the Warriors in Swarm 5. The Tacticals retain and engage. LOTS of bugs go down along with two rhinos. The rest are hacked down. Swarm 2 doubles and lays a BM on the SC. Swarm 1 engages the SC. LOTS of Marines go down along with 2 Gaunts. The rest are hacked down. The Bombers fail to activate. End of Game

Author:	captPiett [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
I used 75, so the land raiders were my sole BTS. What's the right price?

Author:	Dave [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
I figured, Hena has them at 50 now I believe. Without Walker.

Author:	captPiett [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
My quick thoughts on this battle: Now that I've seen the Onachus list from both standpoints, I have to say that the dropping of some special rules from 9.2.1 doesn't seem to hurt them. I think they're 2-2 (which itself is a good sign), but the engagement results within-battle provide more data points than just plain wins and losses. When they get into close combat, the 'nids usually prevail; when they get FF'd and/or clipped, they tend to lose. As a largely CC army, this makes sense, IMO. The notable exception here is Harriet the harridan. But screwing up the data here is the fact that she (that particular model) is cursed - I once killed her with a guard stand in CC - and the devastators she attacked are blessed - they took down some termies in CC (!). Dave needs to build some more 'nid WE's

Author:	Kealios [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
I know this is going to sound rather dumb, but Ive read a number of your BatReps with the red and green chits, and for the life of me cant figure out what they are, numbers and all. Thanks for such detailed reports. Can I get someone to talk down to my level for a minute to explain?

Author:	captPiett [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
Dave really likes Christmas colors all year 'round, so we decorate accordingly Actually, the green tokens can be one of three things: 1) a formation marker with a number on one side and an "activated" symbol on the other (the lightning bolt thingy from the bfg order dice); 2) an overwatch token (with a crosshair); 3) or a broken token (the 3 arrow symbol on the other side of the overwatch one). The red ones are blast markers, a 1 on one side and a 5 on the other. It's Dave's system - I believe he used litco tokens for them.

Author:	Dave [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [Epic: Xenos] 3k Onachus v0.1.1 vs SM (NetEA) - 2010/10/
They're actually small poker chits (same ones used for the LCR dice game and the like). Not Litko, those are my bases. But yes, 'tis the season.

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