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Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed
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Author:  frogbear [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

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Date: 13/05/2010

This game was the first to be played with an updated list for the Emperor's Children

It used the formations of mixed units which I personally found not to work effectively. In formations of 6 units, it is best to have every unit dedicated to the role it serves rather than try to 'handyman' it. This view was strengthened by the feedback received.

I was happy to playtest it however and come out with a view based on practice than theory. This was the game essentially that saw the list turn into it's current version of V3.2 which can be viewed here: Emperor's Children Development Thread

I am not going to go into armies or produce a full battle report as normally produced by me. I am short on time so I will just give a few pics and some details on my findings.

The set up:

As you can see the small EC force was greatly out-numbered by the orks
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The Emperor's Children: (Greater Daemon being a sub for a 4th Hell Knight in the one unit. I also hasd another formation of 6 Hell Knights that can all be seen)
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Judging by the pics I took:
- 6 x Hellknights
- 4 x Hellknights
- 1x Armoured Formation (4xPreds and 2x LRs)
- 3 x Formations of combined EC's and Noise Marines
- 1x Possessed unit
- 1 x Defiler Formation


The dastardly Orks (Kult of Speed):
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Herere we go...

Author:  frogbear [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Everything pretty much ran forward to fire on the Orks:
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The Orks at first approached cautiously
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As you can see, round 2 was really going to be a slaughterfest:
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Author:  frogbear [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Despite my opponent crying about Disrupt and First Strike, many of the combats looked very much like this:
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The orks finally won 4-0 (I forget what the actual objectives were) while still whining about Disrupt and First Strike which had very little impact in the game

The loss came down to 2 main things:
- Running everything up to shoot (a very easy mistake with the EC as, on paper, they have some great shooting). This does leave you open and without support however
- Lack of knowledge of my opponents formations (I was shooting at useless stuff when there were obvious other better targets)

Hell Knights are pretty cool, yet you realise how fragile they are when they are on their own.
Defiler Formation with AA - Expensive unit and still determining whether worth it. They got thoroughly wiped
Formations need to be more specialised rather than general. Going to split Noise Marines and Decadents into their own formations
Going to split Chosen into Chosen and Possessed.

Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Thanks for the quick report

Author:  Angor [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Nice report!

Thats alot of Orks!

Author:  frogbear [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Angor wrote:
Nice report!

Thats alot of Orks!


Tell me about it! ???

Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

You should see my 3000pt KoS army (144 units)

Author:  frogbear [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Tiny-Tim wrote:
You should see my 3000pt KoS army (144 units)


I am calling you out Tim. :)

Author:  Tiny-Tim [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

Do you really want to face:

1) SF Warband - Uge + Nob + Flakwagons
2) SF Warband - Uge + Bad Mekboy Boss Biker + Flakwagons
3) SF Warband - Big + 2x Flakwagons
4) Blitz Brigade - Big (4 x Flakwagons & 4 x Dethkoptas)
5) Blitz Brigade - Big (4 x Flakwagons & 4 x Dethkoptas)
6) Outriders - Big
7) Landa
8) 5 x Fighta-Bommers
9) 3 x Fighta-Bommers
10) 3 x Fighta-Bommers

3000pts and (I got it incorrect the first time) only 140 units

Author:  frogbear [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor's Children vs Orks Kult of Speed

That is awesome. I will put that one aside for a future game :)

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