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Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Well tonight I took my first Necron force against LeanonRuss' Marines.

The lists were as follows:

Necrons

Warbarque + SC
Phalanx + Pariah + Tomb Spider
Phalanx + Pariah + Tomb Spider
Phalanx + Pariah
Monolith Maniple + Monolith
Monolith Maniple + Monolith
Monolith Maniple + Monolith
Monolith Phalanx + Obilisk
Equis Destroyers (2xheavy destroyers) + Lord
Pylon


Marines

Thunderhawk
- Assault Sq
- Devastator Sq
Thunderhawk
- Tactical + Chaplain + Dread
Strike Cruiser
- Tactical + Librarian + Dread
- Tactical + SC + Dread
Attack Bike Squad
Attack Bike Squad
Whirlwinds
Scouts + Rhino x2
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Apologies for the crappy sub of a Pylon however mine is not built yet. But it is a playtest so I am sure you can all get past it.

Turn 1

With a use of Teleport, Shoot, Charge and then consolidating back into the unused teleports, the losses to each side looked like this:

Necrons
Monolith Maniple
2-4 bases of Necrons

Marines
Bikes Formation
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Assault Marines
Devastators
- Tactical Marines broken

Here are some of the pics:

Necrons surround the few marines and force them to run (yes, that was my Pylon for tonight)


And from the other side:



What was left after 2 Thunderhawk assaults:




At the end of turn 1 we called it a game. As we were packing up and me feeling pretty bad, LeanonRuss advised we should keep playing to, as he put it, "highlight how broken the list really is". I have no comment other than to state how, while laughing - because all you could do was laugh, that I felt really bad for Russ having to come up against this force and the tactics I was using.
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Turn 2

Necron Losses
Pylon


Marine Losses
Whirlwinds
- Bike unit broken
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Turn 3


Necron Losses
- 3 bases (I think)



Marine Losses
Everything was wiped off the table except for
- Broken unit of Scouts
- Broken bikes
Both the above units failed to rally



Game Over

Necrons: 4  (T&H, Blitz, BTS, TSNP)
Marines: 0
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
The Necron list looks pretty standard, but the Marine list looks poor (no heavy hitters like Terminators or Titans, and zero AA, too many Tactical formations and not enough specialists like Assaults and Devestators).


Do you have any specific comment other than "Necrons are broken"?
Author:  Morgan Vening [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 18 2010, 13:11 )

The Necron list looks pretty standard, but the Marine list looks poor (no heavy hitters like Terminators or Titans, and zero AA, too many Tactical formations and not enough specialists like Assaults and Devestators).


Do you have any specific comment other than "Necrons are broken"?

One of the key components was Russ never having played Necrons, and only reading a few basic stats, before the game commenced. So his formations were out of position, and his primary targets and strategies weren't necessarily optimal.

A 'standard' approach doesn't work against Necrons (or Tyranids). With some experience, the devastation should be minimized.

Morgan Vening
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 18 2010, 22:11 )

Do you have any specific comment other than "Necrons are broken"?

Please do not misquote me. I never said that they were.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Sounds like a common "first time against necrons" game then!
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 18 2010, 22:25 )

Sounds like a common "first time against necrons" game then!

:agree:
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: (frogbear @ Feb. 18 2010, 13:25 )

Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 18 2010, 22:11 )

Do you have any specific comment other than "Necrons are broken"?

Please do not misquote me. I never said that they were.

Quote: 

"highlight how broken the list really is"


Sorry, but since you didn't qualify this sentence clearly with your own opinion about the balance of the list, the inference you imparted was that you shared this sentiment.
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Can't I have one post today without people barking up my tree?

There was no inference.

Quote: 

LeanonRuss ........ as he put it, "highlight how broken the list really is".


Quote: 

I have no comment


I think I was quite specific as I specifically did not want to be misquoted.

Can we please move on. I so tire of these stupid pissing contests. If people want the last word, go ahead. Otherwise, I placed this up so LeanonRuss could voice his concerns (if any) and allow the community to talk.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: 

At the end of turn 1 we called it a game. As we were packing up and me feeling pretty bad, LeanonRuss advised we should keep playing to, as he put it, "highlight how broken the list really is". I have no comment other than to state how, while laughing - because all you could do was laugh, that I felt really bad for Russ having to come up against this force and the tactics I was using.


Dude, that text, as you wrote it, is unclear at best as to your own opinion (you give no comment other than to laugh at his "having to come up against this force"... so the only comment you did give was not positive).

You've clarified your own opinion now so I can now understand, so there's no need to get het up about it.
Author:  frogbear [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ Feb. 18 2010, 22:51 )

You've clarified your own opinion now so I can now understand, so there's no need to get het up about it.

I just feel like I have been belted for two days straight by people over a game I have come to love very much - that's all. Just when I change the topic and move onto other things, it just seems to follow me.

I just want to play, develop, paint, and have fun. It is also late, so I am going to bed.

Tomorrow is a new day - hopefully.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
Yup well, as I said, sorry. We love you really.  :)
Author:  mattthemuppet [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Necrons vs Marines
and, a deep breath... :)

as others have said, Necrons can be seriously scary to oppose until you figure out what their weaknesses are (limited or no MW/ TK, generally poor maneuverability once teleported). I'd have loaded up on AT weapons, terminators, bikes (for FF and obj capturing), some devastators and a warhound or 2. I'm sure next time he'll learn how to draw out the Necrons so they're poorly positioned then pick off monoliths until they lose the ability to capture objectives.

So fancy playing Necrons against my World Eaters one night/day?
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