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AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
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Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:18 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Well in order to test out some of the changes proposed to the AMTL list, my epic game a couple of weeks ago before the server crash ended up as a playtest for me rather than a fun game. This also marks my first batrep here or anywhere for that matter. :)

AMTL changes: 1 free weapon per reaver, 2 per warlord, 25 points for each after that, warhounds in packs only, CML to 50 points with ground attack, any destroyed battle titan gives BTS.

Lists:
Marines:
Terminators + Captain 375 (BTS)
Terminators + Chaplain 375 (BTS)
Warhound 250
Warhound 250
Thunderhawk 200
Thunderhawk 200
Thunderhawk 200
Tactical 300
Tactical+ Dreadnought 350
Landspeeders 200
Thunderbolt 150
Thunderbolt 150
3000

AMTL:
Warlord (legate, CML, 2x TLD, 2x Lasburners)
Warlord (CML, 2x TLD, 2x volcano cannons)
Warhound Pack (PBG, VMB)
Warhound Pack (PBG, VMB)
Sentinels
Sentinels

I went with the warlords because the reavers would be too fragile against anything other than marines and I didn't want to instantly give away BTS. The rest was to provide speed and keep teleporters off the Warlords. CML was still a better deal than tbolts because I have so few support slots and I can't waste one on something that can't take or contest objectives.

Turn one to follow shortly.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Turn 1
Initiative: Marines, Force AMTL to go
WarlordLegate activates and triples to objectives

Sentinels legate retaun using the legate reroll to tripple around warlord legate


Thunderhawk Dreadnought activates and air assualts Warhounds Legate and loses by one because the warhounds had no BM. Tactical Dreadnought take no losses and retreat broken.


Marines fail to retain with Thunderhawk tactical.

Warhound Legate sustains on the broken Tactical Dreadnought taking down two of the broken marines

Thunderhawk Empty activates and strafes Warhound legate


Tbolt 01 retains to strafe the now shieldless Warhound legate 01 causing two hits both are saved

Warhound Blitz double into the ruined city to take the second marine objective.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Tbolt 02 rolls 4 ones failing to do anything except place a BM
Warlord Blitz moves up slightly keeping the blitz covered.
Warhound Marine 01 moves up and shots at warhound blitz droptwo shields ans scores 4 hits which are saved.


Warhound Marine 2 moves up and drops one hit from Warhound blitz


Landspeeders double targeting warhound blitz


Tbolt 01 and 02, and thawk empty exit weaving past the Titan AA


Rally: marine dreadnought
Fail: Warhound legate, regens one sheild; warhound blitz, regens one shield

turn two coming up....
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Turn 2
Initiative, Marines

Landspeeders advance and target the warhounds doing no damage


Marines retain with Warhound Marine 01 retaining causing two hits destroying one warhound from warhound blitz.
Warlord blitz sustains on Warhound marine 02 leaving a small smoking as it vaporizes under 4 regular hits and 5TK hits.


Thunderhawk Tactical air assaults warhound legate destroying one titan and breaking the formation



Thunderhawk Empty flys in to pick up the tactical detachment
Sentinels Blitz go on OW
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Sentinels Legate attempt to do the same but fail even with the legates reroll and take a BM.
Tbolts 01 ground attack on warhounds blitz stripping two shields


Tblots 02 attempt to retain but fail taking a BM.
Warlord Legate turns and fires on Thawk tactical causing just enough hits to destroy the landed marine flyer.
Tactical dreadnought sustains on the broken warhound legate causing 4 hits


All aircraft fly off taking no BM.

Rally: Tactical Dreadnought
Fail: Warhound blitz and Legate regen one shield each, Sentinels Legate

turn three on the way.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Turn 3
Initiative: Marines

Terminators arrive taking two BM.


Tactical dreadnought moves up catching sentinels legate in a crossfire destrying three and breaking them
Landspeeders fail to retain and take a BM


Warlord Legate activates and moves to to target terminators Chaplian killing one
Warlord Blitz sustains on terminators chaplain killing the rest


Warhound Marine 02 advances to target warlord legate dropping three void shields.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Terminators captain retain and shoots at warlord legate dropping the rest of the shields.
Sentinels Blitz triple up to put the marine landspeeders in their ZOC and contest marine objective 2.


Thunderhawk empty assaults with the second tactical detachment on warlord Legate getting vaporized under 11 failed saves even though they give 4 hits to the titan.

We ran out of time.


Losses:
AMTL 3x Sentinels 2x warhounds: 600 (I guess that since no single detachment was destroyed, AMTL losses would technically be zero)
Marines: 3x thunderhawk, 1x tactical detachment, 1x terminator, 1x warhound: 1575
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Well that was it. I was out of activations and he didn't get a chance to play out the rest of his turn, Unfortunately we were in such a rush by the end I forgot to fire the CML on the assaulting Tactcial detachment in the last turn. I also think I messed up with the counter charge move although it really made no difference on the assault results. With WE, if you aren't fully engaged can you still perform a countercharge move and barge enemy units even though there are some already in base contact?

I think I was in good standing for turn 4 since all of the marine mobility had been eliminated outside of the speeders and warhound.
Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Quote: 

Sentinels Blitz triple up to put the marine landspeeders in their ZOC and


Jow can youdo that? Both Sentinels and Land Speeders have Scout so having both a 10cm ZOC.

But nice report :)
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Thanks for the report.
Author:  Vaaish [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Quote: 

Jow can youdo that? Both Sentinels and Land Speeders have Scout so having both a 10cm ZOC.


We were in a rush by that time and forgot that speeders had scout.
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Wow, do you normally play with that amount of terrain?
Author:  Mephiston [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Quote: (The_Real_Chris @ Sep. 18 2009, 11:57 )

Wow, do you normally play with that amount of terrain?

My first thought too, with no where to hide I'm not surprised the marines took a pounding.
Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
Aye it does look a little sparse outside of the centre doesn't it.
Author:  Vaaish [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  AMTL vs Codex Marines 3k
We usually play with about that much terrain in different configurations since that's about all I have available. I think the issue was more the marines throwing formations piecemeal at the titans and not so much the terrain given practically the whole marine force was airborne and most objectives were in the ruined city surrounded by decent cover.
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