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Epic in Brittany, Chapter 43, SM vs Tyranids

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:29 pm 
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Epic in Brittany - Chapter 43 - 3000pts
Ecomarines vs Juggernaut Hive


Ecomarines (NetERC + Vindicators FERC [MW4+ & MW in FF])
Thunderhawk 1
Assault 1 + Supreme Commander
Devastators 1

Thunderhawk 2
Assault 2 + Chapelain
Devastators 2

Landspeeders
Landraiders 1 + Hunter (BTS)
Landraiders 2
Predators Annihilators + Hunter
Vindicators


Juggernaut Hive (v9.2.1)
Dominatrix

Swarm 1 :
4 Tyranid Warriors
3 Raveners
6 Gargoyles
6 Hormagaunts
8 Termagaunts
2 Carnifex


Essaim 2 :
4 Tyranid Warriors
3 Raveners
6 Gargoyles
6 Hormagaunts
8 Termagaunts
1 Carnifex


Harridan
Trygon + 6 Raveners
6 Genestealers
3 Lictors
4 Lictors





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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:30 pm 
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Déployment
No barrage weapons, so I don't hesitate to put my units very close from each other in a beautifull line of tanks.

Genestealers infiltrate in the center of the table. The 2 swarms and the Harridan are in front of my line. The Dominatrix hold the left side. And the Trygon digs to come to surface in the third round).






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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:31 pm 
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Round 1
No Lictor infiltration.

Strategy : SM, I let Hojyn play.

Swarm 1 : triple forward.


Landspeeders : double toward Genestealers (1 dead).


Swarm 2 : double toward Landspeeders (no damage).


Landraiders 1 : advance toward Swarm 2 (1 Ravener dead).


Harridan : double toward Landspeeders (no damage).
Predators : advance and shoot at Swarm 2 (1 more dead Ravener).


Genestealers : suicide assault on Landspeeders and Predators (1 dead Predator, and all the Genestealers are wiped).

Vindicators : double toward Swarm 2 (1 dead Termagaunt).


Dominatrix : double (to keep AA cover) toward the center of the table..


Landraiders 1 : again double toward the poor Swarm 2 (2 Tyranid Warriors dead).

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Swarm 2 (and the dead Genestealers) have taken half of the SM force on their heads ... and the second half is just coming !


Thunderhawk 1 : lands behind Swarm 2 and cross fire (6 or 7 dead bugs).


Thunderhawk 2 : assault Swarm 2 + Harridan, with support fire from Devastator 1.

The assault is deadly for the bugs (only remain the Harridan, 1 Gargoyle and 1 Termagaunt), but SM are all fine ! (only 1 damage on Thunderhawk ... I was very lucky on my save rolls !).


Harridan : moves back behind the woods, and the 2 bugs runs toward Swarm 1.


Ending phase 1
Tyranids rally (but Synapses of Swarm 1 don't want to get the blast marker of seriously reduced Swarm 2, so Swarm 2 disapears).
Dominatrix spawns 6 Hormagaunts eggs, and Swarm 1 Tyranid Warriors get back a wandering Carnifex.





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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:32 pm 
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Round 2

Lictors appears in my infantry's back.


Strategy : SM.

Assault 1 : FF assault on the 4 Lictors (all Lictors dead).


Assault 2 : FF assault on the 3 remaining Lictors (all wiped out with support from Devastator 1).


Swarm 1 : Hormagaunts long range assault on Vindicators, Landraiders 2 and Landspeeders.


1 Vindicator, 3 Hormagaunts and 1 Gargoyle dead; SM forces are broken.


Dominatrix : doubles and spite on Landraiders 1 (no damage).


Harridan : advances and shoots on Landraiders 1 (no damage).
Landraiders 1 : sustain fire on Swarm 1 (2 Tyranid Warriors and 1 Ravener dead).

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Predators : advance near Landraiders and shoot on Swarm 1 (1 last Ravener dead).

Devastator 1 and 2 : shoot on Swarm 1 (only 1 Synapse alive).
Thunderhawk 2 : lands near Assault 2 and Devastator 1 to evac (and misses the battle cannon sniping on a Carnifex).
The other Thunderhawk also misses the last Tyranid Warrior.



Endding phase 2
Realising it will have to put up with 3 Gargoyles and Dominatrix AA fire, the damaged Thunderhawk 2 only embarks Assault 2. And it is no harmed with the Tyranid AA.

And everyone rally.
Dominatrix spawns 2 Raveners eggs, and Swarm 1 gets one more Carnifex.

Round 3
Trygon & Raveners reach surface near the SM blitz.


Strategy : SM

Predators : sustain fire on Swarm 1, killing the last synapse (and I get 1 vitory point for BTS ! :) )
Landraiders 1 : move back and harm the Harridan (2 damages).


Swarm 1 : assault on SM infantry (hopping recover the Tyranid blitz).


But SM casualies are light (1 Devastator dead) ) and Tyranids are forced to move back, broken.

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Vindicators : double, avoiding the Dominatrix, to contest the control of the Harridan on the radar-bunker (no damage).


Dominatrix : doubles and spites on Landraiders 2 (1 LR destroyed, and the remaining three are broken).


Landraiders move back and try to form a wall between SM blitz and Trygon forces.


Trygon and its Raveners mates : assault on Landraiders 2.


2 Landraiders are destroyed, and the way to SM blitz si free..


But on the battlefield, SM forces are still operational :
Thunderhawk 2 : assault on Harridan, with support fire from Vindicators (the Harridan dies).
Thunderhawk 1 : lands and debarks Assault 2 the the SM blitz to contest the Trygon control on it.
Landspeeders : triple to controle the relay-bunker.
Assault 1 : double to contest the Dominatix control on a Tyranid objective.


Endding phase  3
SM : Break Their Moral, Blitzkrieg, Take and Hold
Tyranides : -

SM Victory : 3-0

My so great victory is mainly due to lucky save rolls (only 8 damages in 3 rounds !) and to the too excentered deployment of the Dominatrix.




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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Thanks for the report, Flogus!

What did you and your opponent think of the v9.2.1 Tyranids?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:49 pm 
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Thanks Flogus, I was just planning on doing a quick summary of the game (with a link to the full report on epic_fr), but this is even better!  :))

So, my thoughts on this game and on the list :

- Obviously, I made a mistake right from the start, I deployed my Dominatrix way too far from the rest of the army. I was hoping to divert Flogus's attention (and troops), but he didn't take the bait and instead concentrated his whole army on one swarm.

- Warriors as LVs : people will notice that Flogus scored the BTS point, BUT... he only did so after 3 turns of firing only at the AT targets in my swarms AND his army was tailored to fight 'nids (not on purpose, though, he just wanted to play lots of tanks and didn't know I would bring 'nids). With a potential of 30 AT shots per turn, there's no way my Warriors could have escaped. I think it's a testimony to their resilience that they lasted for 3 turns. Incidentally, somebody on the epic_fr forum noticed that, had I taken only 7 Warriors (or 7 Synapses of any kind), Flogus would have been forced to kill the Dominatrix to score the BTS. Interesting point, no?

- Once again, Lictors were underperformers... but then again, against an army with SR5, that's not so surprising.

- Subterranean Swarm: very nice addition to the list. Although, given the rarity and newfound usefulness of Raveners, I would suggest a base swarm of "1 Trygon + 3 Raveners" for 200 points, with the possibility to add up to 1 Trygon and 6 Raveners. This would allow players a bit short on Raveners (like me, for example :p ) to play a Sub Swarm or two without using up all of their Raveners.


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Well, I think you allready knows Hojyn's point of view on Tyranids.

My comments about the v9.2.1 :
- assault with the half 'gaunts kills is just fine. We tested many assault resolution rules (expandeble gaunts, full gaunts kills, ...) and the v9.2.1 assault resolution system is ok.

- Light Vehicles Tyranid Warriors : fine. Tyranid Warriors may look more vulnerable, but Raveners and Carnifex provide a good meat shield.
In this game, even with a big AT firepower, I hardly kill the synapses.

- Lictors ... well, these guys just slowed me. They have a good annoying firepower, but being CC-only teleporting units in a SR1 army makes them quite useless versus high Strategy Value armies like SM. Well, they are not totally useless because the opponent must spend some activations to get (easily) rid of them.

After playing 3 or 4 games versus the v9.2.x, I find it just fine.




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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:19 pm 
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Quote: (Flogus @ 11 May 2009, 15:56 )

- assault with the half 'gaunts kills is just fine. We tested many assault resolution rules (expandeble gaunts, full gaunts kills, ...) and the v9.2.1 assault resolution system is ok.

Yes, I forgot to mention it, but the 1/2 expendable rule for Gaunts works just fine. It really helps to balance out assaults.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:38 pm 
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Nice report! what did you use as blast markers?


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Quote: (Tooninki @ 12 May 2009, 18:38 )

Nice report! what did you use as blast markers?

Small "flaming wreckage" (and some "medium", representing 5 blast markers) from Litko Aero.

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