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[Vassal] Tau vs Marines
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Author:  Mephiston [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:50 am ]
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And a complete formation of terminators! (I realise you may have forgotten about them, it happened so early in the game!).

Well what can I say. With the Tau allowing the marines to pick on their formations one at a time allowed them to play to their strengths. I probably could have teleported the brown terminators out of MW range of the crisis as I never planned to engage them, their job was flak supresssion.

All in all the plan worked.
Author:  Ginger [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:38 am ]
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You seemed surprised that the Orca only has 4+ armour, not 5+RA. Statistically they are very similar Vs AA (5/9 Vs 4/8 chance of a save). However, the +1 for CAP makes a big difference meaning the TBolts should get 2 hits on average with a 25% chance of an outright kill. So I guess the question is whether this is too unbalanced and if so, what to do to correct it?
Author:  Mephiston [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:47 am ]
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It may not need fixing, I was just a bit surprised. Off the top of my head I can't think of another WE that doesn't have RA.
Author:  Ginger [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:13 pm ]
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Not in the 'regular' armies.

In the Dark Eldar, the Slave bringer has DCD2 with 4+ armour though it also has a Shadowfield 'shield', while the Barge of Pleasure is DC3 with 5+ armour and 2x Shadowfield 'shields'. So even here, these are slightly more resilient that the Orca.
Author:  Chroma [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:38 pm ]
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Ork 'Fortresses don't have reinforced armour either.  Nor do Eldar Revenant Titans.
Author:  Mephiston [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:46 pm ]
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Quote: (Chroma @ 22 Apr. 2009, 12:38 )

Ork 'Fortresses don't have reinforced armour either.  Nor do Eldar Revenant Titans.

True, but the titans do have that handy 3+ invulnerable save though!

Like I said earlier the save is probably fine, just that I'd not noticed it before.
Author:  clausewitz [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:58 pm ]
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Another great report Mephiston.  And congratulations on the win this time.

Minor point: the Marine list at the top only has one Thunderhawk, but there seem to be two in the battle.

Mephiston you had a really solid plan for the Marines this time, and a nasty anti-tau list.

The Orca is noted as not really being ideal/suitable for "hot" combat drops.  The lower save represents this well.
Author:  Mephiston [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:36 pm ]
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I was worried for a minute and had to do a quick count up of the list posted! Yep, 2800 as listed!

I'd happily take this list against any forces. It wasn't selected as a pure anti tau force.
Author:  clausewitz [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:45 am ]
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Quote: (Mephiston @ 22 Apr. 2009, 14:36 )

I'd happily take this list against any forces. It wasn't selected as a pure anti tau force.

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that the Marine force was specifically selected as anti-Tau.  Just that it was one that had a lot of tools that could be used well against the Tau.
Author:  Honda [ Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:19 am ]
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So Hena, if you knew you were going to face Mephiston again, what would you do different? What would you change about your list?

Great report guys!
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